Project round two: 1992 Chevy Camaro

[TylerT/AZ28]

also if you want to try i different starter i have three

[Darren]

I dont see how it can be the starter, is there anyone that can shed light on this at all?

[TylerT/AZ28]

actually when my truck first started acting up it wouldnt do a darn thing and it endd up being the starter. fuel pump wouldnt make noise, none of the lights would even come on. and it wouldnt even try to start.

[Darren]

that doesnt make sense the fuel pump would prime if the starter was bad. I have lights and everything just no pump no crank. I am way beyond frustrated.

[TylerT/AZ28]

my wiring was all ugged up too the guy put it so once the connection to the starter was broekn everything went along with it and it drained my battery and all that. i have since rewired it though

[hoogiesngrinderz]

Yeah, the pump should prime - but with the VATS issue it'll turn over, just not fire.

I thought the same, but VATS module does two things - sends a 30 hertz grounding square wave to the ECM to let the it know that the key made it happy, and also grounds the starter enable solenoid.

Did you check the VATS fuse?

[MP81]

I thought the same, but VATS module does two things - sends a 30 hertz grounding square wave to the ECM to let the it know that the key made it happy, and also grounds the starter enable solenoid.

Did you check the VATS fuse?

Ahh, yes, the fuse - and that second responsibility of VATS sounds plausible as the cause.

[Darren]

yes fuse is good, in fact all fusses are good.

[meissen]

Yeah, normally a VATS issue it would crank and crank and crank and never start.

[Darren]

Yeah, normally a VATS issue it would crank and crank and crank and never start.

so any other ideas?

[meissen]

Try grounding the starter and then seeing if the car will crank. Mike says the VATS can kill the ground to the starter, so if you supply ground and it cranks but doesn't fire up, then it's still the VATS. The fact that the security light is blinking is suspect to me.

[bri2203]

I can bring over engine bump switch tonight to confirm the starter works...

[Darren]

I can bring over engine bump switch tonight to confirm the starter works...

I work till 9pm so I dont know if that is to late for you.

But we are still missing something here guys, if the starter was bad yes the car wont start but wouldnt the fuel pump still prime??

[meissen]

True - if it's killing the injectors, the pump should still prime, that's correct.

[hoogiesngrinderz]

Brian, look over this 1992 diagram. If the VATS is bad, it shouldn't even crank according to this