Project round two: 1992 Chevy Camaro

[hoogiesngrinderz]

There should be a relay, I'll go take a picture for visual reference if you'd like. Remove the kick panel and its on the inside


Vats box is behind the dash on the passenger side. You pretty much need to remove the dash to get to it.

[Darren]

so what do I do?

[hoogiesngrinderz]

Let me read some more, I'm finding that 91-92 didn't always have the relay

Edit: Look above the fuse box (if you can) or feel around for a square box up there. It will have 4 wires, heavy gauge green wire and yellow wire, and two smaller wires. That is your starter enable relay.

Any chance that your clutch switch went out? I'd check that for continuity.

[Darren]

So your suggesting to change that relay and check the clutch switch? Where would I find that, I have never run into a issue like this before.

[hoogiesngrinderz]

check the clutch switch first. Probe the connector of the black switch on the pedals with your ohmmeter. Press in the clutch all the way, if the ohms drop to zero then switch is good.

[Darren]

I'm stumped. I guess I need to wait for some help or take it somewhere. No idea what I am doing out here.

[MP81]

Just to re confirm:

Key on everything works, lights, radio everything. Go to start the car, no crank, no click, no fuel pump prime (I believe).

That's usually what the VATS issue is - it doesn't allow fuel into the engine. If you spray starter fluid in there I bet it'll try starting for a second.

But if your resistances are matching, then I think you're thinking correctly about a potential BCM issue.

[Darren]

There is no crank so it wont start even on starting fluid. urgh, I am about to join Larry under the car cover.

[MP81]

There is no crank so it wont start even on starting fluid. urgh, I am about to join Larry under the car cover.

Oh. Then that sounds like a total different issue, unless that's how the VATS worked in that year. I'm pretty sure the Seville I had this happen on was a '92 and it would crank, but not fire.

Maybe the solenoid went out?

[Darren]

starter solenoid?

[MP81]

Yeah. Because after some quick during-workout research () if it was VATS, it would crank but not fire, with the security light flashing.

Try jumping the starter directly?

[Darren]

wouldnt it click and wouldnt the fuel pump prime if it was a bad starter? And the security light is on and blinks.

[MP81]

wouldnt it click and wouldnt the fuel pump prime if it was a bad starter? And the security light is on and blinks.

Yeah, the pump should prime - but with the VATS issue it'll turn over, just not fire.

Maybe your ignition cylinder is taking a dump? Sees the key turn to accessory on, but nothing past that? Just a thought. Hmm.

Here's a thread with similar problems. Kinda skimmed some of it.

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/te...ro-wont-2.html

[Darren]

been doing nothing but reading all this crap...

What is the OHM meter suppose to be set too? I have seen 20K but then 2000K etc? I thought I was getting a reading of 7.5 at my Key does this make sense?? I might have the wrong resistor but I am not sure how to tell!

[TylerT/AZ28]

91-92 dont have the relay there. and my 85 has that relay but its not for vats