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Yes, yes, and yes. Key tested at ~3.8k ohms and I bought resistors to produce 3.73k ohms of resistance, still nothing. At this point I am suspecting something with the BCM. Apparently I can delete VATS from the PCM completely and ground the starter relay and be on my way though.
Ya let me know how you do this. Do you have a tuner?
If you touch the two wires in the orange wire, does the light change? This is a good way to see if your BCM is "working" Thats what I was told to do, not sure what it really tells us.
Yes, yes, and yes. Key tested at ~3.8k ohms and I bought resistors to produce 3.73k ohms of resistance, still nothing. At this point I am suspecting something with the BCM. Apparently I can delete VATS from the PCM completely and ground the starter relay and be on my way though.
That is pretty close to being 2% off. Did you ohm out your resistors to make sure they are putting out 3.73k ohms?
I don't think you can completely delete VATS from the PCM.
What I did was wire in the new bypass resistor set, then did the procedure so that the computer could learn the new resistor. Seems to be working alright now, have started it three times now no problems (knock on wood).
And Brett, you can completely delete it in the PCM, you just have to ground the starter relay for it to work. The PCM cuts the fuel after 2secs if VATS tells it to, and the BCM cuts the starter relay. I think there's more that the PCM does but that's the gist of it.
Last edited by Fbomb; May 12th, 2010, 08:03 PM.
Reason: Brett, not Nick.
Also, how do I path over my starter? I think I have VATS disabled, but the starter thing ...ya didnt know of that but it makes sence.
I did the 30min trick and it seems to have worked. I guess you could relearn what your key reads now, as long as the wires for VATS are not broken somewhere in your steering column. As far as grounding the starter relay I'm not sure what wire it is, or even if it's the same LT1 to LS1 but I'd just try checking out some diagrams and do some exploring with a voltmeter.
Turns out it didn't work. Went out to wrap the wires and realized I still had the lock cylinder wires plugged in along with the resistor
Guess I'll have to try getting VATS tuned out and grounding the starter relay. I hope that works because I have no other ideas. What did Craig do when he had problems with it?
Nate I have one more thing for you to try-maybe the module that you bought is actually working, but the BCM is not allowing the starter relay to work. So maybe if you ground out the starter relay it will crank and the module will let it have fuel. If it will only run for 2secs at a time then the module is not working.
Turns out it didn't work. Went out to wrap the wires and realized I still had the lock cylinder wires plugged in along with the resistor
Guess I'll have to try getting VATS tuned out and grounding the starter relay. I hope that works because I have no other ideas. What did Craig do when he had problems with it?
I had mine all plugged in together at first too, drove it for a month like that with no issues. I would love to just have this system gone.
I did some reading and it seems like all the module does is tell the PCM that the BCM is still functioning, but the BCM itself controls the starter relay, which means all you'd have to do then is ground the starter relay or hard wire the solenoid to bypass the relay. http://shbox.com/1/pass_key.html
I did some reading and it seems like all the module does is tell the PCM that the BCM is still functioning, but the BCM itself controls the starter relay, which means all you'd have to do then is ground the starter relay or hard wire the solenoid to bypass the relay. http://shbox.com/1/pass_key.html
Ok so tonight I grounded my starter relay and was able to bypass Passkey1...now it'll start and run for three seconds before the injectors cut fuel. I think I have the other end of the solution to your problem Nate...and you have the other end to mine!!! So I think that all you have to do in order to get your car running again is ground the starter relay, hell you should be able to start it now if you go to the starter and jump the terminal to the solenoid. I'm going to order a bypass module now and hope to God it lets my engine have fuel again.
Ok so tonight I grounded my starter relay and was able to bypass Passkey1...now it'll start and run for three seconds before the injectors cut fuel. I think I have the other end of the solution to your problem Nate...and you have the other end to mine!!! So I think that all you have to do in order to get your car running again is ground the starter relay, hell you should be able to start it now if you go to the starter and jump the terminal to the solenoid. I'm going to order a bypass module now and hope to God it lets my engine have fuel again.
btw I have a video I'll post in a few.
Sweet dude. Going to be working on my car for a bit tomorrow so show me where and I will give it a try.
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