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  • lets put this talk into something run jeff heads up no spray ect if you got anything all motor.

    ill run ya heads up even all motor and my shits slow. 5200rpm rev limiter shifts
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    • First off I'm not discrediting Fred's car in any way its obviously got a lot of potential and with some more seat time will show much better ETs as well. If he wants to do the gauges I think it looks bad ass for sure and I myself would do it if I had the cash, my opinion was to work on the motor and suspension combo and then tackle the smaller stuff but he can do whatever he wants to. Third my 13 second turd is ready and waiting.
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      • agreed. a good running stock LT1 will only trap about 100, maybe 101 if he's lucky. so 10 mph from the shot is a pretty substantial gain.
        -Joel
        1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
        1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


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        • stirring the pot here, yes joel i spun all the way threw first for the most part. didnt miss any gears. ill admit my driving skills at the track could def use some improvment. nitrous wasnt hitting as hard as it should but i think my car still will only top 110. need a rear end and some sticky tires before i can really prove anything. cuz if its on this 10 bolt the car wont see its full potential.
          wishing i could drive like joe and the atm squad

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          • i understand that im just saying you have a lot more pontential as it sits with some practice. low 13s easy, maybe even a 12. what are you launching at? when i was stock i was starting out at 2000 RPM or less and cutting 2.2s at lapeer....which isnt good but decent.

            a common mistake i see is people trying to keep the RPMs up on the launch. 9 times out of 10 that doesnt work with street tires. Its much, much easier to get a good launch if you let the RPMs absorb your launching. You want your clutch to be fully engaged as soon as possible within the lower range of your engines power (obviously you dont want to stall/bog it).
            -Joel
            1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
            1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


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            • Originally posted by JoeliusZ28 View Post
              i understand that im just saying you have a lot more pontential as it sits with some practice. low 13s easy, maybe even a 12. what are you launching at? when i was stock i was starting out at 2000 RPM or less and cutting 2.2s at lapeer....which isnt good but decent.

              a common mistake i see is people trying to keep the RPMs up on the launch. 9 times out of 10 that doesnt work with street tires. Its much, much easier to get a good launch if you let the RPMs absorb your launching. You want your clutch to be fully engaged as soon as possible within the lower range of your engines power (obviously you dont want to stall/bog it).

              i was cutting 2.5 60 foots and i was launching around 3k rpm, anything under that it just bogged down real bad, so thats prob my driving but ive been to the track twice, i could use alot more practice. i was also at lapeer.
              wishing i could drive like joe and the atm squad

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              • lol at you guys getting your panties in a bunch. I'll gladly put up. Why no nitrous?

                We were talking about drag racing Joel nothing else, Jeff made a comment about Fred's car looking fast and not actually being fast. I'm pretty sure Fred wants a street car not a crazy drag car. He was spinning all through 1st on all seasons. We were at Lapeer and it was raining that day.

                As for Jeff's car hanging the tires, cool. I can too. I heard his car running 13's at PINKS, is all that I'm saying. He threw a jab at Fred so I threw one back whats so hard to see there?

                Fred needs some practice and some better tires but he's on a stock 10 bolt at this point. He doesn't need to toss better tires on it and chance blowing it out when it's his Daily Driver.

                As for MPH means everything, I'd argue that statement. Like I stated you can trap 130's and run a 14. Which means what? That you have a 10 second car if you can get it to hook but the point being is it is a 14 second car. Roll racing is a different story and in my opinion, it isn't racing.
                Last edited by PWND3r; August 16th, 2009, 01:23 PM.
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                • Originally posted by Syn View Post
                  lets put this talk into something run jeff heads up no spray ect if you got anything all motor.

                  ill run ya heads up even all motor and my shits slow. 5200rpm rev limiter shifts

                  r u talking to me or joe? i know my car is the slowest in this conversation ooo me race you?? a 500 hp auto car?? just for shits n giggles.
                  wishing i could drive like joe and the atm squad

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                  • your car should not be bogging under 3K. with stock manifolds you should have good torque all the way down to 1500 RPM. The thing is, even if you do bog a little thats better than spinning a lot.

                    here's an old vid of my car, if you listen to the launch you can hear me starting from a pretty low RPM... and this was with headers which killed some of my way-low-down torque.

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_AZz2ecHBo
                    -Joel
                    1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                    1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


                    WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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                    • ya joel i need to be at the track more to run better times, im first to admit as of right now its me not the car holding itsself back. thats a good run joel, very respectable.
                      wishing i could drive like joe and the atm squad

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                      • Don't let off between shifts Fred. You were taking too long to shift. We were out there for what? 40min? You'll get some practice.
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                        • thanks, it will come to you dont worry. my first launches were 3000+ and spinning too, so i learned that one the hard way. just giving you some pointers to experiment with for next time
                          -Joel
                          1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                          1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


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                          • Originally posted by PWND3r View Post
                            Don't let off between shifts Fred. You were taking too long to shift. We were out there for what? 40min? You'll get some practice.

                            ya i wasnt powershifting, granny shifting. ya only about 40 minutes before the rain hit.
                            wishing i could drive like joe and the atm squad

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                            • i wouldnt recommend powershifting, the engagement teeth in in your stock trans wont like that. Just try to shift as fast as possible.
                              -Joel
                              1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                              1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


                              WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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                              • Originally posted by JoeliusZ28 View Post
                                thanks, it will come to you dont worry. my first launches were 3000+ and spinning too, so i learned that one the hard way. just giving you some pointers to experiment with for next time

                                thanks joe, the help is mucho appreciated, did u powershift?


                                joe can help with this too, ive never powershifted. do i just pull threw thats not bad for the tranny??
                                wishing i could drive like joe and the atm squad

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