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  • #16
    Originally posted by Darren View Post
    I am not as well versed on LT, but LT = OPTI and thats no good.
    A carb converted LT would use a traditional distributor
    -Joel
    1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
    1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


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    • #17


      I have a TPI 350 take out if you need it.
      _JASON

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      1991 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 1LE project http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...28-1LE-project
      1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Indy Pace Car
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      • #18
        Jeremy,

        That sounds like a pretty interesting build, could you send me a message of what you are thinking price wise?

        Jason,

        Is the 350 tpi from your 1LE project? Also would the wiring harness and computer be included? If you could send me a message with a price that would be great.

        Just want to say thanks to everyone for putting in their thoughts. You all have a lot more experience than me so I weigh your opinions very highly.

        John
        1991 Camaro RS: "Tiny Turbo Mullet"

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        • #19
          Originally posted by C2YT View Post
          Jeremy,

          That sounds like a pretty interesting build, could you send me a message of what you are thinking price wise?

          Jason,

          Is the 350 tpi from your 1LE project? Also would the wiring harness and computer be included? If you could send me a message with a price that would be great.

          Just want to say thanks to everyone for putting in their thoughts. You all have a lot more experience than me so I weigh your opinions very highly.

          John
          Yes, the 350 TPI is from the 1LE. I gutted the harness to scavenge some pieces I need from it, so it's no longer around. I have the ECM if you need it. PM me an offer. I'm not sure what it's worth.
          _JASON

          http://www.hardingmotorsportsllc.com

          2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06/Z07 (my toy) http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...323#post898323
          2015 GMC Sierra 2500HD Denali Diesel (daily driver/tow vehicle)
          2014 BMW 435i (wife's)
          1989 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...t-Rod-Magazine
          1991 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 1LE project http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...28-1LE-project
          1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Indy Pace Car
          2006 Ferrari F430 FOR SALE: http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...6-Ferrari-F430
          1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Indy Pace Car FOR SALE: http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...-Indy-Pace-Car
          1999 Pontiac Trans Am 30th Anniversary FOR SALE

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          • #20
            Sent it Jason! Today I also picked up a set of seats from another member. These will be going in the 92' when I start on the interior. Immaculate 4th gen seats, grey cloth.
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            • #21
              ooooooooooh thirdgens...... darren does get 7mpg but his driving habits are how shall you say quite spirited. id figure out what you want the car to do, lt1s arent terrible, joels car is impressive to say the least for the little work hes done motor wise. a carb isnt all that bad of a plan either. just food for thought though, 4.8s and 5.3s are getting cheaper all the time, theres a junkyard near me that has any motor for 250 bucks, if you can check compression and run a few tests on it there it might be a viable option....but theres alot of hidden expense even with dropping into a relatively stock motor.

              i say keep the 305 or toss that 350 in for now, keep your costs low as you can get lots of used but still good parts all over inline, facebook, ebay, amazon, etc etc. if you wanted to keep the turbo idea, your 305 could be a donor for that as well theres a few builds on tgo of turbo 305 cars that look like quite a bit of fun.

              yes to ls1 brakes, definitely swap in the posi rear, i like red interiors and black, gray to me is kinda bland and tan is classy but thats only my opinion. apparantly since snatching a set of seats your choice is definitely the gray. other than that id work into whatever your ultimate goal it, a gen 1sbc will do you fine till you can afford what youd truly like. ive learned multiple times that having your car torn apart for a long time makes you lose interest and makes you go a bit nutty and start going wild on it. KISS: keep it simple stupid, is a pretty good motto to go by.
              91 Trans am, 305, Lt1 cam, 24lb injectors, headers, SLP LM2, SW chassis, massive panhard, lowered, modded TPI, Tuned, 4.10s, Lincoln locked
              85 Z28 406/th400?/3.42 4th gen disc rear/4th gen dash
              00 Tahoe Z71........Stock
              97 K1500 lt4 cam, 1.6s, MPFI, Solid axled, IROKs,------winter beater

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              • #22
                Id hit that 305 with a hefty shot of nitrous. 305s are tough chances are it wont hurt it one bit and if it does oh well!
                -Joel
                1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


                WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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                • #23
                  Hey everyone,

                  Hopefully going to look at a 350 tpi after Christmas. If I go this route I can keep my costs low and save money for down the road. It will get me what I am looking for without breaking the bank. I think it would be cheaper to convert the engine to carb too. What do you guys think?
                  1991 Camaro RS: "Tiny Turbo Mullet"

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                  • #24
                    use your tbi
                    91 Trans am, 305, Lt1 cam, 24lb injectors, headers, SLP LM2, SW chassis, massive panhard, lowered, modded TPI, Tuned, 4.10s, Lincoln locked
                    85 Z28 406/th400?/3.42 4th gen disc rear/4th gen dash
                    00 Tahoe Z71........Stock
                    97 K1500 lt4 cam, 1.6s, MPFI, Solid axled, IROKs,------winter beater

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                    • #25
                      What would the benefit of using the tbi be? I know I would have to get a different memcal (correct if wrong). This fuel injection system is just so primitive I don't think it's worth the hassle to make work.
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                      • #26
                        you could be okay retuning yours, and easers and cheaper than buying a bunch of stuff for carb, i mean carbs fairly easy too. primitize how? lots of potential sure others have more but many underestimate it. great for torque and reliability not really for performance, just an option if you want to keep things super cheap
                        91 Trans am, 305, Lt1 cam, 24lb injectors, headers, SLP LM2, SW chassis, massive panhard, lowered, modded TPI, Tuned, 4.10s, Lincoln locked
                        85 Z28 406/th400?/3.42 4th gen disc rear/4th gen dash
                        00 Tahoe Z71........Stock
                        97 K1500 lt4 cam, 1.6s, MPFI, Solid axled, IROKs,------winter beater

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                        • #27
                          TBI might be a possibility, but I think carb would be easier because I have a majority of the components laying around the house. I think it would be a good start for this car and will suit what I need for quite a while.
                          1991 Camaro RS: "Tiny Turbo Mullet"

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                          • #28
                            well in that case go carb, just suggested tbi because you wouldnt have to have many more expenses
                            91 Trans am, 305, Lt1 cam, 24lb injectors, headers, SLP LM2, SW chassis, massive panhard, lowered, modded TPI, Tuned, 4.10s, Lincoln locked
                            85 Z28 406/th400?/3.42 4th gen disc rear/4th gen dash
                            00 Tahoe Z71........Stock
                            97 K1500 lt4 cam, 1.6s, MPFI, Solid axled, IROKs,------winter beater

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                            • #29
                              What would I need to run the tpi? Obviously the wiring harness, but what Memcal do I need to change too? 305 w/ t5? I also know I would have to change the fuel pump.
                              Last edited by C2YT; December 19th, 2014, 11:20 PM.
                              1991 Camaro RS: "Tiny Turbo Mullet"

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                              • #30
                                Well there is work regarless of what direction you go..

                                if the car is currently TBI.. for the sake of simpleness.. I would stay TBI.. yea might have to get a new ecm chip.. but if you go over to thirdgen.org and post that you need one.. you can probably get on sent pretty cheap.. but really.. you wouldn't need to do a crazy ton to the car.. unless you start modifying stuff for performance.. and even then.. you are gonna run into the same problems with TPI and Carb too..

                                Swapping to a carb'd setup isn't just a direct swap either.. for 1 thing.. your fuel system now will now have too much pressure for a carb'd setup.. so you will either need to swap out the fuel pump or install a fuel pressure regulator.. you also would need to go through your wiring harness in the engine bay (unless you want a bunch of useless wires hanging out).. something you should also note here is that carbs need a little more maintenance than a fuel injected setup.. they can gunk up over winter if not winterized.. will need to be rebuilt eventually.. and has a harder time starting in the cold.. some of these might not be an issue for you.. but figured I would mention it.

                                Swapping to TPI would be the hardest to do.. but not impossible.. you need to not only get all the parts for TPI, you will need to make sure you get the ECM and wiring harness too.. which requires you to swap it out that runs through your passenger fender into the cabin area of the car to under the dash.. not crazy hard.. but the most effort.. just need to make sure all the sensors are hooked up and so on.. I'm not sure on the fuel pump.. what pressure ratings it require and so on.. also not sure if the fuel lines are ran on the proper side or not to hookup to the fuel rails..


                                if it were me.. I would just stick to the TBI for now.. and then later swap over to a better platform all together.. because for a stock or mild performance application.. the TPI and TBI setups are both capable of handling it.
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