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  • Originally posted by JoeliusZ28 View Post
    I know of some stock rockers that have seen close to 7k rpm many times... No issue.
    They will take it no problem but the bearings will come apart over time. Happened to Jeff before. Hence the reason they make the torunion upgrade for them.

    Stock LS rockers have been to 8,000 RPM and .650 lift no problem.


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    • Originally posted by c0ncEpT View Post
      They will take it no problem but the bearings will come apart over time. Happened to Jeff before. Hence the reason they make the torunion upgrade for them.

      Stock LS rockers have been to 8,000 RPM and .650 lift no problem.
      Maybe they were blowing smoke up my ass, but Livernois told me that gm made revisions on the stockers, almost eliminating the possibility of this happening.

      i replaced mine with my stockers eith new stockers... thats what they recommended.

      2001 Bright Rally Red Camaro SS
      - M6, Livernois Stage 3 ported 243 heads, Livernois 230/236 114 LSA cam, FRPP 36# injectors, Ported TB, SLP MAF, Volant CAI, Kooks 1 3/4 headers & ORY, GMMG Cat-back. Koni SA 4/3's, BMR springs, Founders Performance, STB, LCA's and Panhard bar.

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      • They may have. At Katech we use stock rockers in everything from 450hp street engines to 24 hour endurance race engines. They are all obviously brand new tho.


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        • Originally posted by c0ncEpT View Post
          Yellow springs are only good to .550 lift. Not saying people don't try and use them on a TR224.
          Well, .551 at least (02-04 Z06 cam)

          I'm with you, definitely wouldn't recommend it, but many with lower duration and under .570 lift have had zero problem. Mathematically, they coil bind at .610 lift at 1.80" installed height. Subtracting .050 for a buffer nets .560 safe lift. But the soft seat pressure, actual install height on non sodium filled valves, etc. make them a poor choice for anything over .550, long duration, or will see high revs.


          Anyway, rip it apart!

          1998 Camaro Z28 - Bright Red, 6.0 TR224, 4l60e, 3.42 Eaton TrueTrac
          1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible - 355 big tube TPI, WC T5, 3.42 Zexel Torsen, CTS-V/C4 brakes
          1955 Bel Air 2 Door Post - 357 TPI, Muncie M20, 4 wheel disc

          2006 Saab 9-7x 5.3i Daily Driver

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          • Is there a way to identify springs? a number or anything?
            1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 - 6 Speed

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            • Originally posted by nascarnate326 View Post
              Is there a way to identify springs? a number or anything?
              I haven't seen any. Comp 918 are typically a bright silver, GM springs are dark with a color stripe painted from top to bottom.

              1998 Camaro Z28 - Bright Red, 6.0 TR224, 4l60e, 3.42 Eaton TrueTrac
              1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible - 355 big tube TPI, WC T5, 3.42 Zexel Torsen, CTS-V/C4 brakes
              1955 Bel Air 2 Door Post - 357 TPI, Muncie M20, 4 wheel disc

              2006 Saab 9-7x 5.3i Daily Driver

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              • Completely redid the PCV system on my car. All new hose, PCV valve, and Y/T adapter. Unfortunately no change in my goofy idle. When driving and I push the clutch in, the car goes to 1800 rpm until I come to a complete stop. 99.9% there are no vacuums leaks.

                IAC need to be replaced?
                1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 - 6 Speed

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                • Well 1800 is high but a car will usually hold slightly above idle in neutral while coasting until it stops.
                  Originally posted by Yoshi94
                  Mines about an inch bigger than Kyles. I need to get one of those
                  Originally posted by ryanwarby01
                  Put it this way, if you have a money tree a LT1 is a wood chipper!
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                  • Thats a tuneable parameter.

                    Try moving your IAT sensor up near the cowl. That made a huge difference on jons car with the same sort of issue.
                    -Joel
                    1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                    1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


                    WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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                    • Originally posted by JoeliusZ28 View Post
                      Thats a tuneable parameter.

                      Try moving your IAT sensor up near the cowl. That made a huge difference on jons car with the same sort of issue.
                      Up near the cowl as in not actually in the intake? The IAT sensor is there for a reason.


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                      • Originally posted by c0ncEpT View Post
                        Up near the cowl as in not actually in the intake? The IAT sensor is there for a reason.
                        Yep and I know this. He tried every other trick in the book, trust me the kid probably has 500 tunes under his belt on that damn car.

                        Someone on HPTuners forum said it fixed it for them, it fixed it for Jon too.

                        Found something on it with a quick google search:

                        To correct this you need to relocate the IAT sensor or upgrade to a 01-up OS like SSute01 said. Your '99 is IAT based only and when the IAT heat soaks due to radiator heat and underhood heat it will falsly report high temp readings to the PCM. The air isn't actually that warm... Moving the IAT sensor into the intake manifold or in front of the radiator to where it can't heat soak will cure alot of your issue.

                        EDIT: i just reread Nate's description of the issue I don't think IAT is anything to do with a high idle. If its "hunting" for idle, id check it though.
                        Last edited by JoeliusZ28; May 7th, 2014, 10:59 PM.
                        -Joel
                        1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                        1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


                        WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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                        • [MENTION=297]pHEnomIC[/MENTION]
                          -Joel
                          1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                          1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


                          WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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                          • Originally posted by nascarnate326 View Post
                            Completely redid the PCV system on my car. All new hose, PCV valve, and Y/T adapter. Unfortunately no change in my goofy idle. When driving and I push the clutch in, the car goes to 1800 rpm until I come to a complete stop. 99.9% there are no vacuums leaks.

                            IAC need to be replaced?
                            I can head out towards you with my HP Tuners next week, we can take a look and see what is going on.

                            1998 Camaro Z28 - Bright Red, 6.0 TR224, 4l60e, 3.42 Eaton TrueTrac
                            1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible - 355 big tube TPI, WC T5, 3.42 Zexel Torsen, CTS-V/C4 brakes
                            1955 Bel Air 2 Door Post - 357 TPI, Muncie M20, 4 wheel disc

                            2006 Saab 9-7x 5.3i Daily Driver

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                            • If I remember right I believe David's LS3 Trans Am did that and it was in the tune. [MENTION=725]LSxDreamer[/MENTION]

                              2011 Mustang GT
                              20" Satin Black AMRs with 305/35 & 275/35 MT Street Radials, Saleen Grille, CS Lower Valance, Roush Axleback, GT500 Spoiler, resonator delete

                              In Progress: Brembo 6-piston brake upgrade


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                              • If its not a vacuum leak, and since we alreadty did a reset on your IAC, your IAC counts are probably off in the tune. The only way to really hone them in is with tuning.

                                The only thing we havn't tried is another IAC. Another thing we could try is unlplugging the IAC and see if it is still acts the same way.If the problem goes away its most likly your IAC counts.

                                2001 Bright Rally Red Camaro SS
                                - M6, Livernois Stage 3 ported 243 heads, Livernois 230/236 114 LSA cam, FRPP 36# injectors, Ported TB, SLP MAF, Volant CAI, Kooks 1 3/4 headers & ORY, GMMG Cat-back. Koni SA 4/3's, BMR springs, Founders Performance, STB, LCA's and Panhard bar.

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