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  • #91
    I tried something the other day you may want to look in to, duplicolor vynl and fabric paint. They used it on the powerblock to do some seats, and I just did the softtop on my jeep with it, very cool stuff. Can get it at autozone/AAP.

    EDIT: Damn, joel beat me....
    1999 Camaro - 6 liters of fury.....

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    • #92
      haha wow, but barely. But yea i used to do that in the shop i worked for all the time and you couldnt even tell.
      -Joel
      1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
      1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


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      • #93
        The best option for you would be to buy some cheap ass carpet that is thinner and lighter than stock and make your own. This is what I would like to do over the winter, its especially a good idea after you put a cage/roll bar in the car because then you don't have to hack up the factory stuff.
        Doing less with more


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        • #94
          fabric "paint" leaves the carpet rough feeling and wears out. Carpet dye actually dies the carpet and stains vs covering them up. the downside to carpet die is you have to much darker than original color since you have to change the color of the stain. The carpet looks fine to me. its clean and thats what i was going for.
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          1993 Z28 Camaro M6- SOLD
          1999 Z28 Camaro M6- SOLD
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          • #95
            i have a roll of black carpet .... how much do u need? cuz i could cut u some for the whole car i do it for cheap to and bring it to ya i go that way all the time if u really live in chelsea only issue is i have to find out where i put the carpet....
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            Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar


            Can you argue that it's "revolutionary"? Perhaps. Just because it's "new" and "different" doesn't mean it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by bigjon88 View Post
              i have a roll of black carpet .... how much do u need? cuz i could cut u some for the whole car i do it for cheap to and bring it to ya i go that way all the time if u really live in chelsea only issue is i have to find out where i put the carpet....
              hey jon i appericate the offey but i am going to stick with this carpet. thanks for the offeer tho.

              taking off door panels next and gettimg a window motor anyone have a drivers side laying around? (window motor)
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              • #97
                Little bit of an update. I am going to pull the motor tomorrow, that is if the boss lets me pull it.

                Here is the story, I detail cars for First Class Mobile Detailing. Well, my boss and I are real close, (not in a gay way) I have known him for around 7 years and have been working for him for about 6.

                We work with each other time to time and tend to but heads a lot on account of not being able to separate friendship and the boss to employee friendship, well anyways, we are currently renting a 6 bay unit. The first bay (starting on the left) has a guys f150 in it. We vacuum his truck and wash it for 20 bucks a week, every week (the guy is a dentist, he is loaded). My boss isn't charging him a THING! Its been stored there for a year now. Total B.S!

                The second bay, has the Camaro in it. I am fixing some rust on our van for him and repainting his fender flares on his Mercedes. (he bought the paint, im doing the labor) So basically i can leave it there for the winter in trade for some labor. He agreed.

                Third bay has trash, yes, boxes and empty chemical containers just sitting there because everyone is to lazy to take them to the trash.

                4th bay is our exterior bay

                5h is our interior bay

                6th has a bunch of crap from the owners of the building.

                Basically my boss has been Bi$ching about my interior pieces laying neatly in between the f150 and the camaro.

                IT ISN"T EVEN IN HIS WAY! WHY DOES IT MATTER??!?!?!

                He tends to bit*h about it when i am not there. But if I ever confront im about anything he gets all upset! So who knows what he is going to say when he sees an engine in there! He has so much crap laying around it isn't even funny! But my little pile of interior pieces are in his way!

                End of RANT! lol


                .....


                I feel better, but anyways, I am going to ask him if I can pull it and see what he says.



                Any suggestions before I start pulling? 2 buddys are going to help. Both pretty knowlegdable with pulling engines but neither have gone through the bottom.


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                • #98
                  good luck to ya
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                  Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar


                  Can you argue that it's "revolutionary"? Perhaps. Just because it's "new" and "different" doesn't mean it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

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                  • #99
                    Talked to the boss man. Everything is good to go. So i didn't give him any time to change his mind


                    Ripped into it. Took off the front bumper, the plastic dampening stuff behind it. (i dont need this correct)?

                    Pulled off the intake

                    Took off the top radiator cover

                    Disconnected all coolant hoses

                    Removed trans lines

                    Removed a/c lines

                    Removed a/c condenser, radiator, trans cooler

                    Removed all electrical (injectors, maf, random sensors that idk what they go to)

                    Removed grounds

                    Removed exhaust (thank you cut off wheel and sawsall)

                    Removed belt

                    Removed air
































                    Now for my questions, I dont need air and egr do I? I can just remove them like an ls1? All i will need is the race headers correct? What do I do with the connections since I wont be plugging anything back in?

                    I plan on removing the A/C, do I just need a smaller belt? Do you guys have a part number?

                    I am sure I forgot a few questions.

                    I believe all I have left is the gas lines, brake lines, strut tower bolts, random abs connections and I believe that is it.


                    Things I came across that I am going to need for sure:

                    -the plastic "frame" the headlights go in to, not sure what its called
                    -intake elbow


                    Didn't really hit any problems, the trans fluid was very dark and dirty!, coolant was very watered down, which i already knew, the pullys are pretty grovved and rusted.
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                    1993 Z28 Camaro M6- SOLD
                    1999 Z28 Camaro M6- SOLD
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                    • Your going to need a ac delete pulley (OR BY PASS PULLEY)I have a brand new one 30.00 and its yours

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                      • Wow your making good progress. You can remove the AIR and EGR on an LT1. You just need to have them both edited out of your computer or you will get a SES light. I believe i followed my wiring back until i could disconnect most of it for both EGR and AIR.
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                        manuals should be launched off the limiter and the throttle shouldn't leave the floor til 10 feet after the finish line

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                        • Originally posted by my1994z28 View Post
                          Your going to need a ac delete pulley (OR BY PASS PULLEY)I have a brand new one 30.00 and its yours
                          Ill keep you updated, i need to get some new brakes on my winterbeater first then ill see how money is, for sure next month.

                          Originally posted by Bad_Z28 View Post
                          Wow your making good progress. You can remove the AIR and EGR on an LT1. You just need to have them both edited out of your computer or you will get a SES light. I believe i followed my wiring back until i could disconnect most of it for both EGR and AIR.
                          Ok, thanks!
                          2002 Z28 Camaro A4
                          1993 Z28 Camaro M6- SOLD
                          1999 Z28 Camaro M6- SOLD
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                          • Ok, so now that it is pretty much out, i need to start making a list of stuff I need for the cam swap. And I am pretty clueless when it comes to this, I know what all the stuff is (mostly) cam, rockers, pushrods, etc. I don't know what valve lash is, or how to install any of the stuff.

                            I have pretty knowledgeable friends that have done cam swaps installed bearings etc.

                            What is a list I need and approximate amount I am going to spend on each, I know it would be probably cheaper to buy it as a package but I wont be able to fork up around 2k for everything at once.

                            Really what I am going for is a fun weekend/strip car. I have my LS1 to dd, I am more or less looking to take this out for dinner or to have fun at the track. I know they say you cant have reliable and cheap, but this is my first actual engine build, the only other engine I have pulled was my old 350 in my 89 silverado. I guess I am more or less looking to make some good power with the cheapest way possible.

                            One of my brothers friends works at a machining shop in town and his dad owns it. He said he can port my heads (stockers) for 150-200 depending on how much he is taking out. Is that a good deal? How much power am I looking to get out of ported stock heads?

                            I was looking to get the 503cc or the GM847, really I just like the sound of them but I dont want to have to rev to the sky to make power.

                            What am I looking at price wise to build my 4l60e? When should I worry about it going out?

                            Sorry about the 50 newbie questions.

                            Thanks everyone!
                            2002 Z28 Camaro A4
                            1993 Z28 Camaro M6- SOLD
                            1999 Z28 Camaro M6- SOLD
                            2008 Ford Fusion SE - DD
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                            • 503 and 847 are no where close to the same cams. one is quite mild and the other is almost too big for stock heads/bottom. An 847 is designed to shift close to 7K, but stock heads will knock that number down some (meaning you dont see its full potential with stock heads).

                              Heres what i can think of:
                              • Cam
                              • Timing Set
                              • Intake gaskets
                              • Timing cover gasket
                              • water pump gaskets
                              • new timing chain or timing set
                              • pushrods
                              • 1.6 roller rockers (NSA)
                              • 7/16 studs
                              • locks
                              • retainers
                              • valvesprings - i recommend PAC 1218s / 1518s beehives or Patriot Duals
                              • guideplates (for NSA rockers)


                              woudl be a good time to replace the opti or the waterpump while youre at it. You can also convert to an electric water pump.

                              edit: also be careful and do some searching... there might (and by might i mean almost gauranteed) be a few hidden 93-specific surprises.
                              Last edited by JoeliusZ28; October 29th, 2009, 11:46 PM.
                              -Joel
                              1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                              1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


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                              • What about 846?



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