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  • The Next War Begins 2007

    The next war begins 2007
    Just when Ford thought it had won the 'pony car' war when the last of its adversaries went to grave a few years ago, the rivals rise

    In 1964, Ford introduced a Ferrari-wannabe to American baby boomers and it was called the Mustang - hence the term "pony car" was coined. It was an instant success thanks to a good balance of sportiness, performance and value for money.
    It was neither the biggest nor the most powerful cars of its time in the US - just a notch below the beastly and expensive Ford GT40 or Chevy Corvette flagship sports cars.
    We are talking about a two-door coupe with long bonnet, short rear end and a V8 engine that an average Joe could afford to buy and burn tarmac from Sunset Boulevard all the way to Florida Keys.
    It also sparked competition from the other two big American car companies in the form of Chevrolet Camaro, Pontiac Firebird and Dodge Challenger.
    The fact that in 42 years, over eight million Mustangs have been sold and that the current fifth generation is still going strong tells you that Ford has got something right.
    First to throw down the gauntlet to the pony car war was the Chevy Camaro which debuted in 1967 and sold a big fraction of the Mustang volume in four generations until its demise in 2002 - the same year it's GM brother, the Pontiac Firebird, was discontinued.
    The Dodge Challenger came late in to the pony car war in 1970 and, thanks in part to the oil crisis at the time, departed as early as 1974 - less than 166,000 units sold.
    Although Dodge rebadged 1978 Mitsubishi Galant Lambda Coupe as a second generation Challenger, it never really qualified as a pony car with its four-cylinder only engine.
    Back to present and we have now seen both the Camaro and Challenger reborn in the form of concept cars at the Detroit Motor Show held earlier this year. The former is expected in the American showrooms in 2007 and the latter in 2008. Let's see what each have to offer and compete with the Ford Mustang.
    - Brian Meissen
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    Administrator, LTxTech.com


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    Are they actually gonna build the Camaro, or is it still a concept? And, anyway, don't they have to wait until '08 before they produce them? (Something about a GM plant in Canada....)

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    • #3
      Yeah I heard that too. They better make it. Wish wish wish!!!! Or else GM WILL DIE. I read an article on Forbes yesterday about it. GM is looking at the possibility filing bankruptcy before '08. Come on, what do Americans and everybody else for that matter want??? Another gaudy SUV... Another ricer ripp-off Cavalier... A Ford... HELLS NO! CAMARO and FIREBIRD BEETCHESSSS!!!!!!!!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by pheonix_rising
        Yeah I heard that too. They better make it. Wish wish wish!!!! Or else GM WILL DIE. I read an article on Forbes yesterday about it. GM is looking at the possibility filing bankruptcy before '08. Come on, what do Americans and everybody else for that matter want??? Another gaudy SUV... Another ricer ripp-off Cavalier... A Ford... HELLS NO! CAMARO and FIREBIRD BEETCHESSSS!!!!!!!!
        What's wrong with Cavaliers? Lol, they make great DD.

        I'm all for it as long as they don't make something as ugly as that damn concept is.

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        • #5
          I take it you drive one? I used to...loved that car! For a dd anyway. Great gas mileage....

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          • #6
            Look, If I wanted a cavy I'd buy a honda. Enough said...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by redhead_with_an_attitude
              I take it you drive one? I used to...loved that car! For a dd anyway. Great gas mileage....
              Yep, I bought a cavalier last april for my DD. 30+ mpg on the highway, got the sport package, it handles alright, loaded with a sunroof, and its yellow with a 5-spd. Fun to drive.

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              • #8
                I had a moonroof on mine...kicked ass! Closest thing to a convertible I'm gonna get. Silver...friend of mine called it the "silver bullet". Wrecked back in '04. *cries* Oh well, can't change the past....

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pheonix_rising
                  Look, If I wanted a cavy I'd buy a honda. Enough said...
                  You ricer. American cars are better.

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                  • #10
                    Ooooo your sleepin on the couch tonight!!!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by pheonix_rising
                      Look, If I wanted a cavy I'd buy a honda. Enough said...
                      Don't make me come over there and kick your ass.....

                      Originally posted by pheonix_rising
                      Ooooo your sleepin on the couch tonight!!!
                      what the hell are you guys in separate rooms or something? lol.

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                      • #12
                        Some of those details seem off.
                        Wasn't the Ford Falcon ...errrr Mustang? made for the new young urban secretary, with a 4 banger engine to start with?
                        A notch below? It was the econobox of it's time, styled cutely for girls.

                        Wasn't GM to bring out the Camaro in 2009?

                        About the St Therese plant, it was razed already - GM couldn't make any announcements about Camaro concepts until that ground was flat.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Orange_Terror
                          what the hell are you guys in separate rooms or something? lol.
                          lol...no. I always sleep on the couch--we live in an apt. with the bedrooms upstairs and its too freakin' cold in winter to sleep upstairs.

                          P.S. Ben, you know you like it. *evil grin*

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Orange_Terror
                            what the hell are you guys in separate rooms or something? lol.
                            Maybe they're takin' turns on...
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                            the keyboard?

                            Hmmm. Why do rednecks always like their action doggie style? So neither one has to miss any WWF.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by redhead_with_an_attitude
                              lol...no. I always sleep on the couch--we live in an apt. with the bedrooms upstairs and its too freakin' cold in winter to sleep upstairs.

                              P.S. Ben, you know you like it. *evil grin*
                              You're supposed to keep each other warm, yaknow? Nocturnal workouts and such.

                              If you are serious, and if you don't smoke, you should try niacin tablets.
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