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  • I'm pretty sure they're BWD wires. Plugs are NGK TR55, gapped to .050"

    1996 Camaro Z28 cam, heads, stall, and a few other goodies
    Alumni Member, MSU Racing Club
    THREE-PEAT MiFbody Meet & Greet "Longest Hauler Award" 2010, 2011, 2012
    Originally posted by JasonH
    It's amazing what you can get done when you throw copious amounts of money at something.

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    • Thinking out loud here, so bear with me.

      First, it seems the stock injectors are providing adequate fuel, but i don't know what kind of duty cycle they're running. I've heard it's not good to run injectors at too high of a duty cycle, but i don't know why. Could someone perhaps enlighten me?

      Also, i realized later that i neglected to mention to the tuner that i have a modified (de-screened and de-finned) MAF. I suppose i forgot because the car always had that as long as I've had it. Could that cause problems with airflow calculations from the sensor?

      1996 Camaro Z28 cam, heads, stall, and a few other goodies
      Alumni Member, MSU Racing Club
      THREE-PEAT MiFbody Meet & Greet "Longest Hauler Award" 2010, 2011, 2012
      Originally posted by JasonH
      It's amazing what you can get done when you throw copious amounts of money at something.

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      • Descreening a MAF is a bad idea imo, generally causes way more problems than it solves. Id try another MAF. My car has stock injectors with 370rwhp and its been fine for 8 years that way. No idea what my duty cycles are, but i imagine im pushing their limits.
        -Joel
        1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
        1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


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        • For the record, i didn't do any of the modification haha. What's the screen even for? Prevent debris from hitting the hairs on the sensor?

          1996 Camaro Z28 cam, heads, stall, and a few other goodies
          Alumni Member, MSU Racing Club
          THREE-PEAT MiFbody Meet & Greet "Longest Hauler Award" 2010, 2011, 2012
          Originally posted by JasonH
          It's amazing what you can get done when you throw copious amounts of money at something.

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          • Its more to smooth/even out the air flow as it passes by the sensor. So without the screen you might get more erradic readings from the sensor which can make the pcm think it needs to make adjustments when everythings fine.
            -Joel
            1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
            1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


            WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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            • Ah, brings me back to fluid dynamics and laminar/turbulent flow. I know MAF sensors don't like turbulent flow, i just didn't know the screen was meant to smooth it out. Do you think it's possible that at that RPM the airflow is getting too turbulent for the de-screened MAF to handle?

              1996 Camaro Z28 cam, heads, stall, and a few other goodies
              Alumni Member, MSU Racing Club
              THREE-PEAT MiFbody Meet & Greet "Longest Hauler Award" 2010, 2011, 2012
              Originally posted by JasonH
              It's amazing what you can get done when you throw copious amounts of money at something.

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              • This is the kind of thing that makes the powertrain calibrator in me wish i was there and could see the data real-time

                1996 Camaro Z28 cam, heads, stall, and a few other goodies
                Alumni Member, MSU Racing Club
                THREE-PEAT MiFbody Meet & Greet "Longest Hauler Award" 2010, 2011, 2012
                Originally posted by JasonH
                It's amazing what you can get done when you throw copious amounts of money at something.

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                • Peter, I have a good MAF if you want to try another and/or buy one. Not sure if you would need the tune adjusted to see any difference though since it was tuned around your old one, not well versed on that stuff.

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                  • Well they said that once i got the issues sorted i could take it back and they'd finish the tune at no extra charge, so if a new MAF changes it won't be a big deal

                    1996 Camaro Z28 cam, heads, stall, and a few other goodies
                    Alumni Member, MSU Racing Club
                    THREE-PEAT MiFbody Meet & Greet "Longest Hauler Award" 2010, 2011, 2012
                    Originally posted by JasonH
                    It's amazing what you can get done when you throw copious amounts of money at something.

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                    • Cool. Let me know if you decide you want it. The one I have was a new GM part and has less than 1,000 miles on it.

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                      • Isn't the ECU OL at WOT? If so, the MAF reading doesn't matter.
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                        • Originally posted by Schuby87 View Post
                          Isn't the ECU OL at WOT? If so, the MAF reading doesn't matter.
                          ^Good point. Youre right it shouldnt matter. Also the maf is going to modify fueling not spark, im curious what information the tuner had that had him convinced it was an ignition issue. (Not doubting him but to help track down the problem)
                          -Joel
                          1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                          1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


                          WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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                          • Thanks Brett, that's an excellent point. I guess the only thing that would indicate it's not a fuel issue is the fact that I'm running rich up where it's breaking up. Again, i don't have any data to say what the injectors are being commanded to at that point, but if it's getting plenty of fuel, and i don't see how airflow would be an issue with my heads and cam, all that's left is spark.

                            1996 Camaro Z28 cam, heads, stall, and a few other goodies
                            Alumni Member, MSU Racing Club
                            THREE-PEAT MiFbody Meet & Greet "Longest Hauler Award" 2010, 2011, 2012
                            Originally posted by JasonH
                            It's amazing what you can get done when you throw copious amounts of money at something.

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                            • Originally posted by alone_and_insane View Post
                              Thanks Brett, that's an excellent point. I guess the only thing that would indicate it's not a fuel issue is the fact that I'm running rich up where it's breaking up. Again, i don't have any data to say what the injectors are being commanded to at that point, but if it's getting plenty of fuel, and i don't see how airflow would be an issue with my heads and cam, all that's left is spark.
                              Spark, or spark timing. Can you log data while doing a WOT run? Maybe it's sensing knock (whether it actually is or not) and retarding timing?
                              Gone but not forgotten: 1986 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z

                              "You shall ride eternal. Shiny and chrome."

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                              • Unfortunately I don't have any data logging equipment or software, so i have no way to correct any data

                                1996 Camaro Z28 cam, heads, stall, and a few other goodies
                                Alumni Member, MSU Racing Club
                                THREE-PEAT MiFbody Meet & Greet "Longest Hauler Award" 2010, 2011, 2012
                                Originally posted by JasonH
                                It's amazing what you can get done when you throw copious amounts of money at something.

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