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No burning these off! 200 treadwear is low enough as it is
Trying to find the weak link?
One of the reasons I decided to put higher treadwear tires on the tuner is because I don't want to repair a transmission. (Even though I have a spare on the shelf). The other reasons included tread life, cost, and handling characteristics.
Last edited by bri2203; March 25th, 2014, 01:25 PM.
Handling characteristics are what I went for when I got these. Was going to get Pilot Super Sports, but my friend who had a set (and initially had recommended them to me), had started using the ZIIs on their LeMons truck (which they also autocross), and he's getting a set for his C5 FRC, told me to consider the ZII over the PSS. His biggest beef with the PSS was the lack of longitudinal grip (his I5 MK5 Jetta would spin them with ease - while the cheaper Hankook RS3s he had on before wouldn't spin at all) and their sensitivity to heat. As soon as they get warm or hot, they get "frustrating", as he put it. He spent the time between AutoX runs trying to get the tires to cool down.
That said, at ambient, they were great. They were quiet, and they had decent treadwear. Being a Michelin, they also cost a ton.
If something breaks, it breaks. But yes, these will find that something.
I'm not so concerned with the replacement of these, that's something I'm expecting, and something I'm okay with if it gives me the best grip I can buy, short of a slick or a R-compound near-comp tire (aka, something that is not a fan of water at all)...
Gone but not forgotten: 1986 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
I don't think you have anything to worry about finding limits. I know a couple SS/SC guys that run R-compound tires with way more than stock power and have had no suspension breaks, however the trans is like glass unless you upgrade to one of the Saab transmissions. How much power are you making?
edit: Also, how wide are the tires you are going with?
Last edited by jetice; March 25th, 2014, 02:56 PM.
You should get a solid 12,000 miles out of those tires. They couldn't have been that expensive. Now when you start pricing them in 245/40/18 and 275/35/18, you get into the stupid expensive range.
I also never realized this car was supercharged. Reminds me of a guy who used to autocross a 2003 Cavalier with the M62 on it. Other than that it was stock and held ~250whp just fine until the ABS went into retard mode.
I don't think you have anything to worry about finding limits. I know a couple SS/SC guys that run R-compound tires with way more than stock power and have had no suspension breaks, however the trans is like glass unless you upgrade to one of the Saab transmissions. How much power are you making?
edit: Also, how wide are the tires you are going with?
About 300 crank. Keep in mind, I have an auto, so it's pretty beefy.
I went with a 225/40R18. My rims are 18x8s, and I'm pretty sure the stock steelie is 15x6...a good solid 2" wider wheel.
You should get a solid 12,000 miles out of those tires. They couldn't have been that expensive. Now when you start pricing them in 245/40/18 and 275/35/18, you get into the stupid expensive range.
I also never realized this car was supercharged. Reminds me of a guy who used to autocross a 2003 Cavalier with the M62 on it. Other than that it was stock and held ~250whp just fine until the ABS went into retard mode.
Oh yeah. No ABS or Traction control on this. Equal length half shafts also are a plus.
And yep - I had looked at bumping up to 235/40R18, and it went from $189 a tire to $217...and then up from there.
My buddy that is getting a set for his C5, is getting 285s all the way around...yeah, that's gonna be some money.
Gone but not forgotten: 1986 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
My buddy that is getting a set for his C5, is getting 285s all the way around...yeah, that's gonna be some money.
It's a big reason I haven't taken the BMW into street touring. I would have to buy another set of 18x10s all around as well as 285s. Or I could just throw 225s on the Miata for $450 instead...
Also I think the ABS was more of a Cavalier thing. The system would get confused really easily over bumps and basically disable the brakes.
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