WTB: CLEAN 93-97 6-speed TRANS AM

[kyleozzie]

Re: WTB: CLEAN 93-97 6-speed TRANS AM

Wonder if he got sued. Buy anyway, how much $ would i have to put under your nose to get my hands on those?

Prolly about a g lol

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[meissen]

Id like a stainless pacesetter design. Fit and plug access is 100x better than LPP. Having installed 3 sets myself, LPPs should have come with a sledge hammer, hearing protection, cutoff wheel and a torch because you usually needed it.

I think a lot of LPP's grief was that they made the headers to hug the car as much as possible. The first time I installed the LPP headers I had a ton of clearance. Then I spun the bearings and had to tear it all apart. When I put the engine back together, I had no clearance against the kframe. Only thing I can think of was the brand new poly mounts had sagged a bit or there's really that much "wiggle room" each time the headers are installed.

[JoeliusZ28]

Still, all three sets i did were no where even reasonably close to clearing the steering shaft.

Sorry to derail your thread jonny, hopefully the feedback is useful.

[Superman09]

Kyle, what brand are those that you posted?

[nascarnate326]

Arnt LPP just copy of Kooks? And the eBay headers just a copy of LPP?

[mcalus]

Kyle, what brand are those that you posted?

He poste lpp's, same thing everyone is talking about

[Superman09]

He poste lpp's, same thing everyone is talking about

So the LPPs have big fitment issues, but then why do people want them so much? Im confused!

[JoeliusZ28]

Arnt LPP just copy of Kooks? And the eBay headers just a copy of LPP?

If i paid kooks price for such poor fitament id pissed!!!

He poste lpp's, same thing everyone is talking about

Really? Why would LPP make a better design and then shit can it?

So the LPPs have big fitment issues, but then why do people want them so much? Im confused!

The LPPs i installed were nothing like the ones kyle posted. Biggest giveaway is the pacesetter style isnt "stepped." the design everyone has trouble with is.

[mcalus]

I thought Kyle said he got a set before lpp stopped making them?


on another note, I don't have many bad things to say about my stainless OBX LTs

[JoeliusZ28]

This is the LPP style that was sold under many different names and has the fitament issues. The other giveaway is the collectors dont run parallel on these... Drivers side kicks out to the side of the car.

[JoeliusZ28]

I thought Kyle said he got a set before lpp stopped making them?


on another note, I don't have many bad things to say about my stainless OBX LTs

Maybe they finally got that design right after X revisions... Even google image searching i can find variations in the design.

[mcalus]

No fitment issues here, I must have gotten a good set my only complaint is the 3.5" collector.

[birdie2000]

So the LPPs have big fitment issues, but then why do people want them so much? Im confused!

They were stainless and were cheaper than every ceramic-coated long tube header available for the LT1 ($300), and they were stepped to 1-7/8". Personally, I'd pay a little more for a stainless header that actually fits right, but nowhere near what Kooks is charging for the same thing.

[kyleozzie]

Re: WTB: CLEAN 93-97 6-speed TRANS AM

Lol I DON'T have lpps. Mine were the short ran stainless pacesetter ones.(ebay) like Joel mentioned maybe the guy got sued because I pulled off my painted legit pacesetters and these were exactly the same... just stainless. They fit like a glove. I almost sold them this winter but decided to hold on to them. I think I could get some good money for them lol the seller was called like eworldsales. He is gone now though.

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[JoeliusZ28]

No fitment issues here, I must have gotten a good set my only complaint is the 3.5" collector.

I dont remember a 3.5" collector?v

Seems like there are so many different versions of that design out itd be hard for Jonny to get any useful data on them. I'll just leave it at this - the non-stepped pacesetter design fits and performs great. The stepped primaries on the other style are probably the major reason they are such a difficult fit. I havent seen any evidence they perform better, so id never buy them. That said, i wont deny that some people probably see that feature on paper and go gaga over it despite the tight fit.