my first 1st gen

[TSTONE]

that said - a previous owner could have done a front end swap which was not uncommon back in the day if damaged (a lot less expensive) what does the rear of the vehicle look like - the RS had lower valance backup lamps

RS


Std

[WMCC Doug]

i have never hide away headlights on something that old didnt those come out in 70's or 80's im not starting something here but if they really had hide aways then post a pic ive never seen one.

WHAT ????????

You must still be wet behind the ears.

Take a look at SKAR's sig. His is a '68 RS. The RS (with hide away headlights) came out right away in 1967, and ended with the 1969 model. Gone after that on a Camaro.

Sorry, no harm intended, it just struck me in an odd way. I've grown up with these cars, and I know everyone needs to start learning some time.

While the front end could have been changed during the past (from RS to non-RS) it's pretty unlikely. Most often it happened the other way around. You will sometimes find a Camaro with the hideaway RS headlights and no back-up lights under the back bumper.

Remember, the RS package was a special trim/appearance package, that could be ordered separately, or combined with the SS (performance) package, making it an RS/SS.

[Lucky SOB]

i think you guys (darren and beardy) were thinking of pop up headlights? the first gen rs hide away headlights, flip to the side. they RARELY line up well. hahaha

[Darren]

I knew of hide away head lights on the 1st camaro's I was just trying to find a picture to help beardy's understanding. I didnt know they flipped to the side tho...

[WMCC Doug]

Could his be an SS kinda looks like this one here

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1967 Camaro SS

Is this what you mean by hide away lights?

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EDIT: I see Todd beat me to it!

The red one is just an SS, while the orange one is an RS/SS. A base Camaro (not RS or SS) would have the same style grille as the red SS (just without the SS emblem in the middle).

[Darren]

So his would clearly be a SS or Base model camaro then?

[WMCC Doug]

i have never hide away headlights on something that old

Actually, hideaway headlights on the 1st Gen Camaro was nothing new. Check out this 1936 Cord. It has hideaway headlights, front wheel drive, electric shifting and was available with an optional supercharger from the factory.

[WMCC Doug]

So his would clearly be a SS or Base model camaro then?

Without more details, it's impossible to tell for sure just from the photos posted. It's highly unlikely to be an RS (that had it's RS front end removed and replaced by a standard front), and unlikely to be an SS either (though possible. There were just fewer of them around) It would require a closer examination of the components (brakes springs, etc) to see if it's an SS, so is most likely a base model '67 Camaro.

He says he's going to do a resto-mod on the car, so it's really is not an issue, anyway. It looks like a great car to build a nice 1st Gen street maching from.

[Moser]

Here is the rear end of the car.


He said he thought it was an RS because if you look at the front fenders near the grill, it looks like somebody filled in some holes where hide away headlights would go, but I don't know much about first gens so I have no idea. He also said he thought it was one because it has the solid red tail lights, and he just thinks somebody took the reverse lights off and slapped them onto a different car.

And yes, that hood is definitely going to go.

[WMCC Doug]

Well, it does have RS tail lights. However, it does not have the RS backup lights below the bumper in the lower valence panel. You can examine that lower valence panel and look for evidence of patched covering up the holes where the backup lights were mounted. These would be fairly large rectangular holes, not just screw holes.

However tail lights can be changed out in about 10 minutes, so it's still a possibility that the RS tail lights were swapped in, instead of undoing all the other RS stuff and changing it into a base level trim.

Does it appear to still have the original steering wheel? Depending if it was an RS or SS or base model, the steerting wheel center cap would be specific to each model.

If it has front drum brakes, it's probably not an SS.

[TSTONE]

However tail lights can be changed out in about 10 minutes, so it's still a possibility that the RS tail lights were swapped in, instead of undoing all the other RS stuff and changing it into a base level trim.

i'll agree with doug on this one - thats why i asked about a shot from the rear

for S&G's whats the vin and trim tag info?

[WMCC Doug]

Yup, trim tag info and VIN number will help, however, '67's are quite a bit harder to de-code that the '68's and later. That why examination of the components is helpful.

But with as much missing as there is, it would probably not be worth the expense and difficulty to restore the car back to original, correct condition. That's especially true if it's not some rare model, loaded with options, etc.

But building a nice street machine should be a blast. You can build it any way you want then.

[JoeliusZ28]

why are the leaf shackles hanging down so far on that thing?

congrats on the purchase! I love 67s but id prefer an RS personally

[meissen]

Hey if you're going restomod then put RS frontend on it!

[bigjon88]

nice car man looks like this is going to be a sweet build