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    Someone who I know talked to someone important from GM about the new Camaro today and I found out a couple key things about it. The information is as far as I know true because the person who told me the stuff works at an automotive testing place where some tests will be done on the Camaro in the future, and the person she talked to was sorta important. This is what I learned:
    • The Z28 WILL BE the top model
    • BUT... it will cost around $70,000 supposedly
    • The new Camaro will be out in January, not any earlier



    I actually hope whomever they talked to was lying, cause a $70,000 Camaro seems ludicrous to me
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  • #2
    Ugh! It might take awhile to save up $70,000

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    • #3
      Based on chevy's current C6's, and if the information was true

      '08 C6 Z06 $72,125 starting w/ the LS7
      '08 C6 $46,950 w/ the LS3

      so possibly...

      Z28 w/ LS7 ~70K
      SS w/ LS3 ~40K

      or maybe the Z28 will get the LS9?

      either way if the Z28 is 70K, it would be ridiculous because the Z06 is about the same cost

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      • #4
        why would you buy a camaro Z28 when you could have a C6 ZO6? no way a Z28 will take more than mid 40's to own. If it does then GM really is trying to kill it before it even gets to production.
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        • #5
          They can't afford to make a $70,000 Camaro.

          At that point, I would definately get a Vette.
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          • #6
            Who knows... The GM guy also didn't understand why the Z28 was the higher model based on the Camaro's lineage...


            But still, I don't agree with a Camaro that competes with the Z06




            PLEASE let the GM guy be a LIAR!!!
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            • #7
              Easy People I Willing to bet that somebody is full of and is juststarting more rumors more RUMORS! No offense 94_LT1_Z28 but we have all heard it before.
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              • #8
                The Z28 was always the top model in terms of performance wasn't it? everyone always seems to think the SS was. wasn't the SS essentially a visual package? somebody please clarify, I'm too young to know this. haha.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 19Xtreme99 View Post
                  The Z28 was always the top model in terms of performance wasn't it? everyone always seems to think the SS was. wasn't the SS essentially a visual package? somebody please clarify, I'm too young to know this. haha.
                  The Z28 originally had the famed 302 engine that was terribly underrated.

                  SS was not just an appearance package on Camaros, it included bigger motors too.

                  Originally posted by Wikipedia
                  First-generation engines
                  • 1967-1969: L26 230 cid (3.8 L) 230 I6 140 hp
                  • 1967-1969: L22 250 cid (4.0 L) 250 I6 155 hp @ 4200 rpm, 235 ft/lb @ 1600 rpm
                  • 1967-1969 Z28: 302 cid (4.9 L) Small-Block V8 290 hp (rated) 340-350 hp actual
                  • 1967-1969: LF7 327 cid (5.4 L) Small-Block V8 210 hp
                  • 1967-1968: L30 327 cid (5.4 L) Small-Block V8 275 hp
                  • 1969: LM1 & L65 350 cid (5.7 L) Small-Block V8 255 hp and 250 hp
                  • 1967-1969 L48 SS350: 350 cid (5.7 L) Small-Block V8 295 hp (1969-300hp) @ 4800 rpm, 380 ft/lb @ 3200 rpm
                  • 1967-1969 L35 SS396: 396 cid (6.5 L) Big-Block V8 325 hp @ 4800 rpm, 410 ft/lb @ 3200 rpm
                  • 1967-1969 L78 SS396: 396 cid (6.5 L) Big-Block V8 375 hp @ 5600 rpm, 415 ft/lb @ 3600 rpm
                  • 1968-1969 L34 SS396: 396 cid (6.5 L) Big-Block V8 350 hp @ 5200 rpm, 415 ft/lb @ 3200 rpm
                  • 1968-1969 - L89 aluminum cylinder head option for the SS396/375 engine - lightened the engine by ~100 lbs.
                  • 1969 COPO 9561/L72: 427 cid (7.0 L) Big-Block V8 425 hp @ 5600 rpm, 460 ft/lb @ 4000 rpm
                  • 1969 COPO 9560/ZL1: 427 cid (7.0 L) Big-Block V8 430 hp @ 5200 rpm, 450 ft/lb @ 4400 rpm
                  Last edited by MP81; April 28th, 2008, 04:09 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Its hard to know what to believe anymore. Im just wondering if this guy was sick of people asking and started making up info as he went along. But if you try and compare the Camaro to the Corvette it makes a little sense. You can have the base car, then if you want better you can have the SS, and if you have too much money, you could get the Camaro equivalent of a Z06
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                    • #11
                      And if GM's timeline continues the way it should, their model should be done by September with production in October... So HOPEFULLY they test the car this summer and strings can be pulled so I can come watch
                      1994 Z28 Black, M6, Hardtop, SLP Loudmouth I, GM Performance Cold-Air Intake, 96-97 SS spoiler, 17" x 9.5" Chrome Z06 Motorsports, Longtubes



                      "It's not who I am underneath, but what I *DRIVE* that defines me."

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                      • #12
                        how much do you like your job??? got a camcorder? lol
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                        • #13
                          This is the lineup that makes sense to me:

                          base-luxury vette = SS Camaro / LS3
                          Z06 vette = Z28 Camaro / LS7 (or even just an LS3 again)
                          ZR1 vette = ZL1 Camaro / LS9 *VERY limited production*

                          The LS9 version is the only one i could see being anywhere close to 70k, if they even produce that.

                          Id also like to see a 5.3 availible for the Rally Sport appearance package like the 305 was with third gens.

                          I also do not believe anything that anyone says right now. Until GM releases the lineup, its only a matter of people telling other people that their opinion is wrong.
                          Last edited by JoeliusZ28; April 28th, 2008, 04:46 PM.
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                          • #14
                            chevy will never let anything even come close to touching the vette. that is their pride and joy. The camaro was never designed to compete with it. why would it be? they are the same company. the two cars serve two different purposes and always have. the vette is and will always be untouchable. I love those cars! I've been known to wet my pants just thinking about ZO6's. tmi? sorry.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by WMCC Gary View Post
                              Easy People I Willing to bet that somebody is full of and is juststarting more rumors more RUMORS! No offense 94_LT1_Z28 but we have all heard it before.
                              You ready to hear some more?

                              Originally posted by 19Xtreme99 View Post
                              The Z28 was always the top model in terms of performance wasn't it? everyone always seems to think the SS was. wasn't the SS essentially a visual package? somebody please clarify, I'm too young to know this. haha.
                              Negative, the Z28 was intended to be a comprehensive road race package...the SS model could be made to do this but always had more (and higher) hp motor selections.

                              Generally speaking, if there was an SS offered, it was the top line vehicle.

                              Originally posted by 94_LT1_Z28 View Post
                              And if GM's timeline continues the way it should, their model should be done by September with production in October... So HOPEFULLY they test the car this summer and strings can be pulled so I can come watch
                              Negative, production is to start February next year, but they are on schedule.

                              OK, you ready for this?

                              Just last week GM decided to have BOTH the SS and Z28 have badging on the steering wheels (originally just the SS was to have badging, indicating that it would be the top line model).

                              Just to further muddy the waters...
                              Originally posted by Redd8407
                              I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
                              Originally posted by Z28ISGR8
                              WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
                              Originally posted by Darren
                              I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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