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  • #46
    Tackled the driver-side valve cover gasket today.

    Cleaned off the valve cover some and vacuumed around the flanges to make sure no debris would fall in while trying to maneuver the thing off.


    Looked nice and clean underneath.


    Underside of the valve cover, cork gasket still "attached".


    Gasket removed - the lower 1/3 of the gasket was pretty noticeably not attached as well to the valve cover as the rest of the gasket, and more oily. Also cleaned up the valve cover of all the grime that was on it before.


    Valve cover back on. The gasket set came with spreaders


    I now have one shiny and one grimy valve cover.


    Back together - the clean valve cover really pops, makes the engine bay seem a little cleaner. Also wiped off some of the grime on the AC compressor and the dust/dirt on the inner fenders, fan shroud, etc.



    Got it all back together and fired it up - and still seeing smoke. Looking closer, it seems to be coming from farther down - near where the exhaust bolts up to the manifold. Not sure if it's dripping down there or what, but changing the gasket didn't seem to do shit. Maybe there is residual left from before, I don't know.

    That being one issue, the other is the carb, and where it likes to idle - namely about 2-3k rpm.

    Long story short, talking with Craig (@9T8W66) on the phone today, he was leaning towards the distributor advance kicking in and causing the idle to increase that far all by itself.

    I disconnected the 4-wire connector, disabling the advance, and the car's idle was about flawless - sitting at 1k and dropping down to 750 once it warmed up - which is pretty clearly how it is supposed to operate.

    So, this begs the question of why is the distributor forcing it to idle so god damn high. Even when it would idle more "normally", it would still be at about 1500 rpm. Any ideas?
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    "You shall ride eternal. Shiny and chrome."

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    • #47
      Probably the timing adjustment of the distributor generating (or lacking) vacuum such that it thinks it needs to advance more. Kind of a mechanical endless loop of sorts. Will probably settle down like it should with some advance/retard of the distributor.

      Also id bet the oil on the manifold is previous buildup. It might take a 20-30 miles to burn that off entirely i wouldnt assume theres still a problem at this point.
      -Joel
      1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
      1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


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      • #48
        Originally posted by JoeliusZ28 View Post
        Probably the timing adjustment of the distributor generating (or lacking) vacuum such that it thinks it needs to advance more. Kind of a mechanical endless loop of sorts. Will probably settle down like it should with some advance/retard of the distributor.

        Also id bet the oil on the manifold is previous buildup. It might take a 20-30 miles to burn that off entirely i wouldnt assume theres still a problem at this point.
        It's an ESC distributor (81 was the first year for that) - so no vacuum feed, all electronic.

        And yeah, that's what I was starting to think. I'll reach down there and try to clean it off, if I can, to help it along. The smoke definitely was coming from lower - not from up higher like before.
        Gone but not forgotten: 1986 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z

        "You shall ride eternal. Shiny and chrome."

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        • #49
          Glad to find out the heater core was leaking, so my uncle cut the hoses and bypassed it...so...no heat. Great.

          So need to do the heater core - which apparently means the AC lines need to be evacuated.
          Gone but not forgotten: 1986 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z

          "You shall ride eternal. Shiny and chrome."

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          • #50
            Gotta pull the dash for that?
            -Joel
            1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
            1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


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            • #51
              If it's the same procedure as the core on cars without AC (Chilton manual literally doesn't give you the procedure for AC cars, because of the "danger" ):

              "
              1. Disconnect the negative battery cable. Drain the radiator. Disconnect the heater hoses.
              2. Remove the nuts that attach the heater case to the firewall (from the firewall side). Then, remove the screws from inside the car.
              3. Remove the glovebox and door. Remove the screws attaching the heater outlet duct to the heater case, and remove the duct.
              4. Remove the defroster screw. Pull the heater case out. The core may now be pulled out of the case.
              5. Reverse the removal procedure to install. Use new seals between the heater case and firewall."
              Gone but not forgotten: 1986 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z

              "You shall ride eternal. Shiny and chrome."

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              • #52
                Doesnt sound bad at all
                -Joel
                1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


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                • #53
                  Originally posted by JoeliusZ28 View Post
                  Doesnt sound bad at all
                  Not really - just having to evac all the AC lines isn't something I'd be looking forward to doing.
                  Gone but not forgotten: 1986 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z

                  "You shall ride eternal. Shiny and chrome."

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                  • #54
                    who needs heat
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                    Originally posted by meissen
                    I actually agree with Darren on everything he said...
                    Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar
                    Yep, pretty much...not too often I agree 100% with Darren, but there it is...


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                    • #55
                      My wife. She can be cold in the car with the windows down on an 80 degree day - I can only imagine how "frozen" she'll be with the T-tops off on a 60-degree night on Woodward.

                      Right now it's not high on my list of things to do. Set of headers will heat the interior plenty.
                      Last edited by MP81; June 21st, 2016, 09:57 AM.
                      Gone but not forgotten: 1986 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z

                      "You shall ride eternal. Shiny and chrome."

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by MP81 View Post
                        My wife. She can be cold in the car with the windows down on an 80 degree day - I can only imagine how "frozen" she'll be with the T-tops off on a 60-degree night on Woodward.

                        Right now it's not high on my list of things to do. Set of headers will heat the interior plenty.
                        Heat is usless in that car, and even more so if you actually cruise with it on.

                        I've said once i'll say again I have a set of hooker mids, and y pipe (although I would get a new one made or go duals) I would sell dirt cheap if you want them.
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                        1992 Chevy Camaro 25th Anniversary-SOLD
                        1992 Chevy Camaro 25th Anniversary
                        1997 Chevrolet Corvette

                        The Original
                        Originally posted by meissen
                        I actually agree with Darren on everything he said...
                        Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar
                        Yep, pretty much...not too often I agree 100% with Darren, but there it is...


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                        • #57
                          Why would the heat be useless? My Camaro's heat was more than fine in the winter.

                          And do you know the part number for them?
                          Gone but not forgotten: 1986 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z

                          "You shall ride eternal. Shiny and chrome."

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by MP81 View Post
                            Why would the heat be useless? My Camaro's heat was more than fine in the winter.

                            And do you know the part number for them?
                            You're planning on driving this car in the winter?

                            I can see if there is a part number on them. Had them on my car before going to long tubes.
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                            1992 Chevy Camaro 25th Anniversary-SOLD
                            1992 Chevy Camaro 25th Anniversary
                            1997 Chevrolet Corvette

                            The Original
                            Originally posted by meissen
                            I actually agree with Darren on everything he said...
                            Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar
                            Yep, pretty much...not too often I agree 100% with Darren, but there it is...


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                            • #59
                              Youre gonna need 2 1/4" primary tubes to let all the ponies gallop free with that 305 under the hood.
                              -Joel
                              1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                              1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


                              WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Darren View Post
                                You're planning on driving this car in the winter?

                                I can see if there is a part number on them. Had them on my car before going to long tubes.
                                Oh hell no. But I've had plenty of times during the spring or fall where it's nice to have heat in the morning or at night.

                                Okay, perfect, thanks.
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