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  • #46
    Originally posted by JasonH View Post
    A V6 car will cost more to get it up to speed than this car cost me.

    WHAT ? you haven't built a 3rd gen ls swap then. There is no difference other gauges from v6 to v8 unless your running aftermarket gauges anyway, if so stock wouldn't matter. Guessing your upgrading suspension and fuel system so that wouldn't matter either. Other then moving the front brake lines which just literally bending them forward on a v6 and drilling an extra hole on the stock cross member, there is nothing different from v8 to v6. Just saying I have done it on 3-3rd gens 2 being v8's and one a v6's, the procedure is the 99.5% the same.



    what did you buy the 1991 for anyway? I picked up my v6 1991 for 400 bucks
    '91 Camaro Modded, LSx, House of Kolor Intense White, lowered, GS chrome 18" wheels, 14" Brembo CTS-V on all 4 corners, LS rear end, FP suspension components

    " When in doubt...throttle out ! "
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    • #47
      so much butt hurt over this car, wow... shocked (actually not really)

      Guys your forgetting its JASON'S car... do what you want with it oh and sell me the engine!
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      I actually agree with Darren on everything he said...
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      Yep, pretty much...not too often I agree 100% with Darren, but there it is...


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      • #48
        Give me the brakes and then I'll help you cut it up!

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        • #49
          not butthurt, just trying to save him some money so when he tries to sell it he can make more return on his investment thats all, he does run a business.
          '91 Camaro Modded, LSx, House of Kolor Intense White, lowered, GS chrome 18" wheels, 14" Brembo CTS-V on all 4 corners, LS rear end, FP suspension components

          " When in doubt...throttle out ! "
          ENVYsion Entertainment Group

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Gregs_gsxr View Post
            not butthurt, just trying to save him some money so when he tries to sell it he can make more return on his investment thats all, he does run a business.
            He said on the first page of this thread that he wasn't going to sell it. You asked him if he was going to.

            More power to you for making the car what you want it to be. Its clearly going to be a clean, well done car. I'm sure all these guys pissed about you modifying the car are blowing up your inbox with large cash offers for it as it sits....
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            Originally posted by JoeliusZ28
            If you need 6 and half grand to break your tires loose you shouldnt be attempting a holeshot.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by WMCCjames View Post
              I tend to say stock sucks in most cases....but this is one of those exceptions.

              The problem with cutting it up and installing all the "latest cool shit" is that some day, the latest cool shit will be obsolete, just like your hotrod. Not only is the original value of the car gone and most likely all the number matching parts are as well, but so is the value of all that "latest cool shit". Then what do you have? Your hatred for 3rd gens has always been very obvious, but remember, lots of guys out there don't share the same mindset and appreciate these cars for what they are. If you follow pricing trends on some of the rare 3rd gens that have sold at auction recently, you would see that people are starting to pay decent money for these cars.

              And Michael is right, someday (10-20 years) that car restored to it's original state will be worth 2-3 times more than your car as it sits with it's outdated "latest cool shit". But don't feel bad, I'm in the same boat as you. My car is cut up to the point of no return, but that doesn't bother me one bit.
              Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar View Post
              This quote needs to be promoted and printed on T-shirts so we can all start poining-and-giggling in 10 years.

              It's the epitome of the "satisfy-me-now" syndrome that is so prevalent in today's society.

              There is nothing (let me repeat that...NOTHING) that can be added/changed/modified/updated to this car that has not already been done before...and done literally 1000s of times.

              So why would you take a very rare car and just lemming-ize it?

              I get it, I understand that these things will be made to an individual's personal preference...but if you really had a '67 Z28, would you put a blown 454 in it with a flame job, just because you can?

              By the way, this thing is more rare than a '67 Z28, just for reference...

              To each their own, but I would hazard a guess that whatever gets done to this car now, in 20 years somebody is going to spend the same amount of money to undo and make it original again...
              Well that was easier than I thought



              Originally posted by 1BADAIR View Post
              Unless it has less than 500 original miles it ain't gonna be worth anything.
              Build it
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                • #53
                  Ok enough of that, lets get this thread back on track please.
                  -Joel
                  1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Gregs_gsxr View Post
                    WHAT ? you haven't built a 3rd gen ls swap then. There is no difference other gauges from v6 to v8 unless your running aftermarket gauges anyway, if so stock wouldn't matter. Guessing your upgrading suspension and fuel system so that wouldn't matter either. Other then moving the front brake lines which just literally bending them forward on a v6 and drilling an extra hole on the stock cross member, there is nothing different from v8 to v6. Just saying I have done it on 3-3rd gens 2 being v8's and one a v6's, the procedure is the 99.5% the same.



                    what did you buy the 1991 for anyway? I picked up my v6 1991 for 400 bucks
                    V6 cars tend to be more daily drivers and are more beat up. I did find a clean, low mile, V6 in the area and the guy wanted more than I paid for this car!

                    I like the provenance of starting with the correct car for the project.

                    I don't discuss what I pay for cars.
                    _JASON

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                    1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Indy Pace Car
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Gregs_gsxr View Post
                      not butthurt, just trying to save him some money so when he tries to sell it he can make more return on his investment thats all, he does run a business.
                      I appreciate the concern (not sarcastic), but this project is for me. I can't make money on it, even if I did an OEM restoration.
                      _JASON

                      http://www.hardingmotorsportsllc.com

                      2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06/Z07 (my toy) http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...323#post898323
                      2015 GMC Sierra 2500HD Denali Diesel (daily driver/tow vehicle)
                      2014 BMW 435i (wife's)
                      1989 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...t-Rod-Magazine
                      1991 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 1LE project http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...28-1LE-project
                      1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Indy Pace Car
                      2006 Ferrari F430 FOR SALE: http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...6-Ferrari-F430
                      1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Indy Pace Car FOR SALE: http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...-Indy-Pace-Car
                      1999 Pontiac Trans Am 30th Anniversary FOR SALE

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                      • #56
                        Alright guys, I'm in agreement with some of the others - let's bring this thread back on track. Jason's car, he can do what he wants with it.
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                        • #57
                          Subscribed can't wait to see the build progress I know you will make one bad ass car!
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                          • #58
                            I'm feeling a little overwhelmed.

                            The good news is there is no rust on this car what-so-ever. I took the side skirts off and it was clean underneath.

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                            _JASON

                            http://www.hardingmotorsportsllc.com

                            2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06/Z07 (my toy) http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...323#post898323
                            2015 GMC Sierra 2500HD Denali Diesel (daily driver/tow vehicle)
                            2014 BMW 435i (wife's)
                            1989 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...t-Rod-Magazine
                            1991 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 1LE project http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...28-1LE-project
                            1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Indy Pace Car
                            2006 Ferrari F430 FOR SALE: http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...6-Ferrari-F430
                            1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Indy Pace Car FOR SALE: http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...-Indy-Pace-Car
                            1999 Pontiac Trans Am 30th Anniversary FOR SALE

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                            • #59
                              Wow what a clean car
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                              • #60
                                Progress

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                                The car paid me back today. ~$17 was under the center console, jammed in the shifter, and under the carpet.
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                                There is no rust on the floor boards.
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                                _JASON

                                http://www.hardingmotorsportsllc.com

                                2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06/Z07 (my toy) http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...323#post898323
                                2015 GMC Sierra 2500HD Denali Diesel (daily driver/tow vehicle)
                                2014 BMW 435i (wife's)
                                1989 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...t-Rod-Magazine
                                1991 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 1LE project http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...28-1LE-project
                                1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Indy Pace Car
                                2006 Ferrari F430 FOR SALE: http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...6-Ferrari-F430
                                1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Indy Pace Car FOR SALE: http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...-Indy-Pace-Car
                                1999 Pontiac Trans Am 30th Anniversary FOR SALE

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