I would be quite upset about the headers. Aren't they third gen specific?
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1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible - 355 big tube TPI, WC T5, 3.42 Zexel Torsen, CTS-V/C4 brakes
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I really dont understand why its so hard to test fit headers before putting them on the market. Half of whats out there for LT1s also have disastrous fit. Lets just put a primary where the steering shaft is, that'll be fine!-Joel
1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
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Well obviously that's the most efficient use of packaging - having two objects occupy the same space? That's possible, right?Originally posted by JoeliusZ28 View PostLets just put a primary where the steering shaft is, that'll be fine!Gone but not forgotten: 1986 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Yes, they are Hawk's Third Gen LS swap headers.Originally posted by hoogiesngrinderz View PostI would be quite upset about the headers. Aren't they third gen specific?
These are the budget ones, but I was very happy with the quality. I have also seen the Hawks regular headers which are made by Stainless works and I can't tell much of a difference. Bruce Hawkins told me the only real difference was their supplier of the budget version wanted their business more and priced it more aggressively. This is very low volume private label manufacturing and I can see how Stainless Works can probably not see it as a priority.Originally posted by WMCCjames View PostLooks like Hawks is selling the cheap knock-offs too. SMH
I spoke to Bruce about the header fitment and I understand his mentality. Trying to put longtube headers on a third gen that originally had a y-pipe that crosses over to the right is no easy task. Bruce wanted to make the headers as tight to the car as possible, because a lot of these cars are lowered and don't need pipes hanging down. It's 10lbs of shit in a 5lbs bag with these cars, especially on the left side. You have fuel/brake lines, the shift selector lever/cable/bracket, and in my case the range selector switch. I just don't understand the O2 sensor placement. Clearly it was done for a T56. The right side hits the trans servo. Bruce said they sometimes use a shorter O2 sensor to make this easier, but I already have GM O2 sensors and frankly I don't know what short sensors he's talking about or if they will even work with my PCM. Luckily I have the ability to weld in O2 bungs in the horizontal position at work.Originally posted by MP81 View PostWell obviously that's the most efficient use of packaging - having two objects occupy the same space? That's possible, right?_JASON
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I was on vacation for a week. Now I'm back on the project.
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BMR torque arm is in and exhaust all wrapped up to the y-pipe.
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Prepping Katech valve covers and laid down a base coat of white.
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Headers in. Coil brackets off awaiting Katech valve covers. Painted intake cover is on and the photo is in black and white to disguise the color.
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Working on air intake system couplers. Fluids are in. Cranks. Has oil pressure. Electrical checks passed. Almost ready to fire._JASON
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Man that is pretty2011 Ford Raptor SuperCrew
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Finished up the air intake system
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Installed Katech valve covers and coil relocation kit
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The car cranks and fires. I only ran it for a second because I don't have a belt on it. I'm waiting for the Katech belt tensioner that is on backorder. I also need mufflers._JASON
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this car looks so good! ultimately this is the direction I want my car to go, just over a longer period of time haha!"Project Shadowfax" <- Clicky Clicky
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This is gonna be awkward, no way around it...but I wanna make sweet sweet love to your car.
Really looks amazing, man - I love where you took it. Great attention to detail, but all upgrades looks like they always belonged there, like it was built that way.
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Thank you. That was exactly the look I was going for so it means a lot to me. I want to build the car as if GM were building it today for SEMA.Originally posted by Atrus View PostThis is gonna be awkward, no way around it...but I wanna make sweet sweet love to your car.
Really looks amazing, man - I love where you took it. Great attention to detail, but all upgrades looks like they always belonged there, like it was built that way._JASON
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I agree. So far the only thing id change at all is id have stuck a small/mid sized cam in it.-Joel
1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd

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I didn't do that because I think 475hp will be enough for this car. I'm not building the rear end or doing any other modifications to support that kind of power in a third gen with the exception of subframe connectors. The trans is built for 475hp with a stock stall and I didn't want a higher stall that would be required for the camshaft.Originally posted by JoeliusZ28 View PostI agree. So far the only thing id change at all is id have stuck a small/mid sized cam in it._JASON
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2014 BMW 435i (wife's)
1989 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...t-Rod-Magazine
1991 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 1LE project http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...28-1LE-project
1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Indy Pace Car
2006 Ferrari F430 FOR SALE: http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...6-Ferrari-F430
1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Indy Pace Car FOR SALE: http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...-Indy-Pace-Car
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