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  • I would be quite upset about the headers. Aren't they third gen specific?

    1998 Camaro Z28 - Bright Red, 6.0 TR224, 4l60e, 3.42 Eaton TrueTrac
    1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible - 355 big tube TPI, WC T5, 3.42 Zexel Torsen, CTS-V/C4 brakes
    1955 Bel Air 2 Door Post - 357 TPI, Muncie M20, 4 wheel disc

    2006 Saab 9-7x 5.3i Daily Driver

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    • Looks like Hawks is selling the cheap knock-offs too. SMH
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      • I really dont understand why its so hard to test fit headers before putting them on the market. Half of whats out there for LT1s also have disastrous fit. Lets just put a primary where the steering shaft is, that'll be fine!
        -Joel
        1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
        1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


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        • Originally posted by JoeliusZ28 View Post
          Lets just put a primary where the steering shaft is, that'll be fine!
          Well obviously that's the most efficient use of packaging - having two objects occupy the same space? That's possible, right?
          Gone but not forgotten: 1986 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z

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          • Originally posted by hoogiesngrinderz View Post
            I would be quite upset about the headers. Aren't they third gen specific?
            Yes, they are Hawk's Third Gen LS swap headers.


            Originally posted by WMCCjames View Post
            Looks like Hawks is selling the cheap knock-offs too. SMH
            These are the budget ones, but I was very happy with the quality. I have also seen the Hawks regular headers which are made by Stainless works and I can't tell much of a difference. Bruce Hawkins told me the only real difference was their supplier of the budget version wanted their business more and priced it more aggressively. This is very low volume private label manufacturing and I can see how Stainless Works can probably not see it as a priority.

            Originally posted by MP81 View Post
            Well obviously that's the most efficient use of packaging - having two objects occupy the same space? That's possible, right?
            I spoke to Bruce about the header fitment and I understand his mentality. Trying to put longtube headers on a third gen that originally had a y-pipe that crosses over to the right is no easy task. Bruce wanted to make the headers as tight to the car as possible, because a lot of these cars are lowered and don't need pipes hanging down. It's 10lbs of shit in a 5lbs bag with these cars, especially on the left side. You have fuel/brake lines, the shift selector lever/cable/bracket, and in my case the range selector switch. I just don't understand the O2 sensor placement. Clearly it was done for a T56. The right side hits the trans servo. Bruce said they sometimes use a shorter O2 sensor to make this easier, but I already have GM O2 sensors and frankly I don't know what short sensors he's talking about or if they will even work with my PCM. Luckily I have the ability to weld in O2 bungs in the horizontal position at work.
            _JASON

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            1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Indy Pace Car
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            • I was on vacation for a week. Now I'm back on the project.

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              BMR torque arm is in and exhaust all wrapped up to the y-pipe.

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              Prepping Katech valve covers and laid down a base coat of white.

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              Headers in. Coil brackets off awaiting Katech valve covers. Painted intake cover is on and the photo is in black and white to disguise the color.

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              Working on air intake system couplers. Fluids are in. Cranks. Has oil pressure. Electrical checks passed. Almost ready to fire.
              _JASON

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              2015 GMC Sierra 2500HD Denali Diesel (daily driver/tow vehicle)
              2014 BMW 435i (wife's)
              1989 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...t-Rod-Magazine
              1991 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 1LE project http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...28-1LE-project
              1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Indy Pace Car
              2006 Ferrari F430 FOR SALE: http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...6-Ferrari-F430
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              1999 Pontiac Trans Am 30th Anniversary FOR SALE

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              • Man that is pretty
                2011 Ford Raptor SuperCrew
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                Roush Intake, Corsa Exhaust
                20" and 40" Light Bars

                2000 Camaro Z28
                Stripped Down Drag Car Build

                Project 1999 Camaro Z28


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                Crate LS3, LS9 Cam, LSA Supercharger, Metco Solid Isolator
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                ZL1 HX, ZL1 Fuel Pump, CTS-V Lid, LSA Injectors
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                Kooks 1-7/8" Longtubes, High Flow Cats, X Pipe, Solo AxleBacks
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                2.55 Lingenfelter Pulley and Injectors waiting to go on!
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                • Your progress is fierce.

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                  • Finished up the air intake system
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                    Installed Katech valve covers and coil relocation kit
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                    The car cranks and fires. I only ran it for a second because I don't have a belt on it. I'm waiting for the Katech belt tensioner that is on backorder. I also need mufflers.
                    _JASON

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                    2015 GMC Sierra 2500HD Denali Diesel (daily driver/tow vehicle)
                    2014 BMW 435i (wife's)
                    1989 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...t-Rod-Magazine
                    1991 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 1LE project http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...28-1LE-project
                    1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Indy Pace Car
                    2006 Ferrari F430 FOR SALE: http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...6-Ferrari-F430
                    1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Indy Pace Car FOR SALE: http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...-Indy-Pace-Car
                    1999 Pontiac Trans Am 30th Anniversary FOR SALE

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                    • this car looks so good! ultimately this is the direction I want my car to go, just over a longer period of time haha!
                      "Project Shadowfax" <- Clicky Clicky

                      1984 Pontiac Trans Am (15th Anniversary Edition)
                      L69 (High Output 5.0) / 700r4 Auto Trans



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                      • This is gonna be awkward, no way around it...but I wanna make sweet sweet love to your car.

                        Really looks amazing, man - I love where you took it. Great attention to detail, but all upgrades looks like they always belonged there, like it was built that way.
                        2000 SS Convertible #1414 - Light Pewter 6 Speed

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                        • Originally posted by Atrus View Post
                          This is gonna be awkward, no way around it...but I wanna make sweet sweet love to your car.

                          Really looks amazing, man - I love where you took it. Great attention to detail, but all upgrades looks like they always belonged there, like it was built that way.
                          Thank you. That was exactly the look I was going for so it means a lot to me. I want to build the car as if GM were building it today for SEMA.
                          _JASON

                          http://www.hardingmotorsportsllc.com

                          2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06/Z07 (my toy) http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...323#post898323
                          2015 GMC Sierra 2500HD Denali Diesel (daily driver/tow vehicle)
                          2014 BMW 435i (wife's)
                          1989 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...t-Rod-Magazine
                          1991 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 1LE project http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...28-1LE-project
                          1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Indy Pace Car
                          2006 Ferrari F430 FOR SALE: http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...6-Ferrari-F430
                          1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Indy Pace Car FOR SALE: http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...-Indy-Pace-Car
                          1999 Pontiac Trans Am 30th Anniversary FOR SALE

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                          • That is beautiful! Been having a good time following this build. Keep it up.
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                            1992 Camaro Z28 - 305 TPI Targa-top : Jessica Rabbit
                            1996 Camaro Z28 - LT4 roadster : Epic - SOLD
                            2000 Camaro RS - 3.8 V6 T-top : Edge - SOLD
                            1988 Camaro RS - 2.8L V6 Hardtop : Blade - SOLD

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                            • I agree. So far the only thing id change at all is id have stuck a small/mid sized cam in it.
                              -Joel
                              1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                              1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


                              WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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                              • Originally posted by JoeliusZ28 View Post
                                I agree. So far the only thing id change at all is id have stuck a small/mid sized cam in it.
                                I didn't do that because I think 475hp will be enough for this car. I'm not building the rear end or doing any other modifications to support that kind of power in a third gen with the exception of subframe connectors. The trans is built for 475hp with a stock stall and I didn't want a higher stall that would be required for the camshaft.
                                _JASON

                                http://www.hardingmotorsportsllc.com

                                2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06/Z07 (my toy) http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...323#post898323
                                2015 GMC Sierra 2500HD Denali Diesel (daily driver/tow vehicle)
                                2014 BMW 435i (wife's)
                                1989 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...t-Rod-Magazine
                                1991 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 1LE project http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...28-1LE-project
                                1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Indy Pace Car
                                2006 Ferrari F430 FOR SALE: http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...6-Ferrari-F430
                                1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Indy Pace Car FOR SALE: http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...-Indy-Pace-Car
                                1999 Pontiac Trans Am 30th Anniversary FOR SALE

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