[Project] Project Black Out

[87z28clone]

Well here it is my 88 RS 5 spd v6 t top camaro
Bought it with a blown motor...Had it for 3 months havent done much untill today!
reason for te name is thats the color i plan to paint it
Mod plans are as follows...
L67 (supercharged 3800)
Black cherry paint
97 firebird mirrors
17" eagle alloy wheels
z28 hood and z28 tail lights...
I started today with a complete car and ended my day with this




TRASH who needs AC when u got t tops






I pulled the intake/alt.PS pump/Ac compressor/idler/fuel rail/Its torn down more than in the pics just didnt think to take more but will tomorrow
All i have left to do is undo exhaust trans bolts n motor mounts and this thing is out and ready for its 3.1!!

[Darren]

supercharged 3.8 or the 3.1 from Greg going in?

[87z28clone]

Gregs 3.1 for now...Then eventually a sc/d 3.8 ohhhhh how bad ass it will be....The one in my bonne is amazing (lots o mods haha) but if i do one up like it for my camaro with a 5 spd and RWD OH YEAH!!!!!

[Gregs_gsxr]

making some progress...sweet. i dont want to touch the 3.1 until you come and see exactly what you want and dont want is your buddy coming to take the trans ?

[Gregs_gsxr]

supercharged 3.8 or the 3.1 from Greg going in?

if your not working or call in sick come to my house on Thursday from 9 am till whenever we get the job done

[Darren]

Gregs 3.1 for now...Then eventually a sc/d 3.8 ohhhhh how bad ass it will be....The one in my bonne is amazing (lots o mods haha) but if i do one up like it for my camaro with a 5 spd and RWD OH YEAH!!!!!

wont ever replace or be the same as a nice v8 tho...

[Darren]

if your not working or call in sick come to my house on Thursday from 9 am till whenever we get the job done

I work during the week! 8-6! I have fridays off most of the time tho!

[87z28clone]

Thats what u think! plenty o power and mpg thats what i want and i love 3800..You and Jon should come over thursday ill be there at like 9 am or so....And besides that sexy ass truck u see has a 383 stroker in it! im good on power if i need it haha i want my camaro to be difrrent!

[Gregs_gsxr]

I work during the week! 8-6! I have fridays off most of the time tho!

perfect, bring a change of clothes and head over... no excuses !

[87z28clone]

BWAHAHAH A MAJOR CHANGE OF PLANS FOR THE MOTOR HAS BEEN idearated...Not gonna say what it is but it will stll utilize the 3.1

[93formulalt1]

wont ever replace or be the same as a nice v8 tho...

Just going to throw this out there. . . The 3.8 SC is a VERY potent powerplant. My '98 GTP is rated at 240hp and does 0-60 in under 7 seconds. That's bone stock, through the parasitic FWD transaxle. In a properly done RWD setup with a manual trans, it's not too hard to believe that a S/C'ed 3800 SII Camaro could manage sub-6 second 0-60 times and less parasitic power loss through the drivetrain when compared to the FWD GTP/SSEI/SS.

That said, it's not a direct swap, and it would take MUCH more time, effort, and money to do it right compared to just doing a V8 swap. If you really want to get respectable power from a V6, check out some of the FI cars over on FullThrottleV6.com, there are a few that would embarrass some LS1's.

Honestly, a 350 swap would be the most effective way to double your power, and it would cost you half as much as going with a FI V6. That would leave you money for performance upgrades, supporting modifications, and some body and paint work.


Don't think I'm trying to get you to take the easy way out, I've owned a V6 F-Body and 2 V8 F-Bodies, and trust me, the V8 was put in these cars for a reason.

Now, a supercharged 383 stroker with a 6-speed behind it. . . Don't get me started. lol

[87z28clone]

Yeah.Ive never seen a third gen with an L67 tho! and if i do to one the same shit thats done to my SSEI OMG ill love it..I just want alot o power and some mpgs to that is a long way off yet..Ive come across another idea that somebody else ideared up ad shared with me..bwahaha

[87z28clone]

Got black cherrys new enigine from gregs car

[phoenix_rising]

Looks like good progress Dakota. I have seen an L67 in several 4th gens. It can be done and a third gen will allow you much more room than a 4th gen will. It is a very cool concept. Please if you do choose to make the swap keep up updated. I love seeing oddball engine combos that work.

A lot of this stuff is tricky, not just a simple bolt on but don't get discouraged. I have seen many people give up on their ideas when then going gets tough. But I have also seen many finish their projects . Us V6 geeks are too few and far between. I am just glad that my Firebird is coming back together finally.

[87z28clone]

Well for now the 3.1 will be its heart...there are plans for the 3.1 the L67 is a eventual hopefully this winter