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  • #31
    Originally posted by Nocooler View Post
    No problem - it should get you in the ball park
    lol now I just gotta figure out how to use it. never tuned with a computer before. so this is all new to me. still trying to figure out where to adjust what. but yes this will be a big help

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    • #32
      The spread sheet calculates the IFR (injector flow rate) table

      So punch in the numbers it wants - it spits out the table below - copy and paste that into your IFR table in hptuners
      2000 Formula
      fixed slow junk

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      • #33
        injector pulse width data

        here the the pulse width data and other info I was sent.

        CC/min LB/Hr Ohm 10v 11v 12v 13v 14v 15v 43.5 PSI 440 42 13 1.27 1.08 0.91 0.74 0.63 0.53
        43.5 PSI 550 52 13 1.07 0.88 0.78 0.67 0.55 0.46
        43.5 PSI 650 62 12 1.08 0.86 0.69 0.54 0.41 0.31
        43.5 PSI 850 80 12 1.36 1.12 0.92 0.76 0.63 0.50
        43.5 PSI 1000 96 3 1.17 0.95 0.80 0.67 0.56 0.46
        43.5 PSI 1200 114 3 2.55 2.28 2.00 1.79 1.62 1.46
        43.5 PSI 1600 152 3 1.80 1.46 1.23 1.05 0.92 0.81
        Here is a website that also might help you.
        http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/calcinjpulse.html
        Getting the injector dead time correct is important for getting a stable, accurate idle, and accurate AFR's while engine braking.
        Injector dead time will differ from the manufacturer spec if the "fly back" voltage your ECU applies to the injectors is different than that during the manufacturer's tests.
        Here is a method for measuring dead-time in-car.
        Procedure:

        Idle car while data logging, and have a means of changing injector electrical pulse width slowly up and down while logging. Car must have a reasonably stable idle at a fairly fixed RPM, and battery voltage must be constant throughout.
        Log MAP, AFR, Battery volts, and Injector electrical pulse width, while idling. Slowly raise and lower injector on time ( Do it by changing the AEM's injector dead time vs. battery voltage, across 3 cells, straddling the battery voltage that you are seeing). Slowly raise and lower it until the RPM starts to drop significantly or the car starts to misfire. You could go from 11:1 to 16.3:1 or so and back. Do this several times, it may take you a few minutes.
        Then examine the data logs. Do an XY plot. Plot MAP divider AFR on the X-axis, then injector on-time on the Y-axis. You can use AEM Log for this, or MS Excel. Excel has the advantage of having a linear curve fit ("trendline, linear"). The datapoints should form a line. If you project this line to the Y-axis, the intercept is the dead time.
        In Excel, do a scatter plot, then add a trendline. Select "linear", and in the options, select "show equation". If your data is clean and has little noise, the Y-intercept will show in the equation. If not, select "Set Intercept", and try different values until the trendline appears to describe the quiet part of the data.

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        • #34
          Excellent link!

          1998 Camaro Z28 - Bright Red, 6.0 TR224, 4l60e, 3.42 Eaton TrueTrac
          1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible - 355 big tube TPI, WC T5, 3.42 Zexel Torsen, CTS-V/C4 brakes
          1955 Bel Air 2 Door Post - 357 TPI, Muncie M20, 4 wheel disc

          2006 Saab 9-7x 5.3i Daily Driver

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Nocooler View Post
            The spread sheet calculates the IFR (injector flow rate) table

            So punch in the numbers it wants - it spits out the table below - copy and paste that into your IFR table in hptuners
            awesome thankyou

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            • #36
              dose this look right

              Publication1.jpg

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              • #37
                Ken - looks good to me.
                2000 Formula
                fixed slow junk

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                • #38
                  That should get you running, stay out of the boost until the Dr. can see you

                  1998 Camaro Z28 - Bright Red, 6.0 TR224, 4l60e, 3.42 Eaton TrueTrac
                  1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible - 355 big tube TPI, WC T5, 3.42 Zexel Torsen, CTS-V/C4 brakes
                  1955 Bel Air 2 Door Post - 357 TPI, Muncie M20, 4 wheel disc

                  2006 Saab 9-7x 5.3i Daily Driver

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                  • #39
                    Re: tuners please step in

                    Awsome thanks guys for all the help.

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