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    i just changed my oil about a week ago, now the sensor on the pan is leaking so i went to swap that out and as expected got a little oil everywhere but anyways it was black like it hated been changed in years. didnt smell like gas nor was it shiny as if it had gas or coolant in it just black. this cant be good can it
    wishing i could drive like joe and the atm squad

  • #2
    What kind of oil?

    How many miles?
    Originally posted by Redd8407
    I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
    Originally posted by Z28ISGR8
    WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
    Originally posted by Darren
    I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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    • #3
      im pretty positive pennzoil full syn and prob 300 miles
      wishing i could drive like joe and the atm squad

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      • #4
        Hmmm...check your plugs...I suspect they'd be black...
        Originally posted by Redd8407
        I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
        Originally posted by Z28ISGR8
        WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
        Originally posted by Darren
        I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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        • #5
          300 miles and black oil is normal, I thought. Mine was black when I changed it at 250.
          - Brian Meissen
          Owner, MiFBody.com
          Administrator, LTxTech.com


          1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
          2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"
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          • #6
            ive found that a 160 degree thermo can make a car run too rich, is that what youve got? The PCM will be referencing the warm-up AFR tables constantly. My oil got dirty quick with that also.
            -Joel
            1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
            1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


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            • #7
              Originally posted by meissen View Post
              300 miles and black oil is normal, I thought. Mine was black when I changed it at 250.
              For break in miles, I'd agree with you.

              But full synthetic on a broken in motor?

              My suspicions are running in line with Joel's...
              Originally posted by Redd8407
              I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
              Originally posted by Z28ISGR8
              WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
              Originally posted by Darren
              I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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              • #8
                does a 160 make it alot more noticeable?
                i switched to mine and noticed oil looked like it was years old after 500 miles
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                • #9
                  a 160 tstat is a good idea if your computer is programmed for it - but with the stock AFR tables, the PCM never thinks it reaches operating temperature, and thus the AFR will never quite hit the optimum mixture. 160 is "close" to warmed up, so it will only run somewhat rich - its not extreme or dangerous but it will filth the oil up quicker. The PCM gradually leans the mixture out the warmer the coolant readings get.
                  -Joel
                  1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                  1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


                  WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar View Post
                    For break in miles, I'd agree with you.

                    But full synthetic on a broken in motor?

                    My suspicions are running in line with Joel's...
                    good point - i overlooked that.
                    - Brian Meissen
                    Owner, MiFBody.com
                    Administrator, LTxTech.com


                    1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
                    2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"
                    Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
                    June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
                    The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI

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                    • #11
                      i have a stock thermostat but this is all good info. i just dont have the money for a rebuild quite yet so i was hoping i wasnt seeing early signs of catostrophic failure
                      wishing i could drive like joe and the atm squad

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                      • #12
                        You have an old dirty motor and the new SM rated oils are very good at cleaning so you are probably just seeing the oil do it's job. I would not worry about it. New pennzoil syn is some of the best out there now for the money. If an oil is not getting dirty it is not doing its job I would think.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SSTODD View Post
                          You have an old dirty motor and the new SM rated oils are very good at cleaning so you are probably just seeing the oil do it's job. I would not worry about it. New pennzoil syn is some of the best out there now for the money. If an oil is not getting dirty it is not doing its job I would think.
                          This is very true.

                          If your plugs look normal, I'd say it's nothing to worry about, but keep an eye on it...
                          Originally posted by Redd8407
                          I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
                          Originally posted by Z28ISGR8
                          WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
                          Originally posted by Darren
                          I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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                          • #14
                            i just changed mine today, after 200 miles from the rebuild, it was black and a little thin from the tune.

                            But thats normal. And i spent 51 dollars on K&N oil filter and royal purple MY GOD thats hell of a lot of moola.

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                            • #15
                              Isn't royal purple synthetic?
                              - Brian Meissen
                              Owner, MiFBody.com
                              Administrator, LTxTech.com


                              1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
                              2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"
                              Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
                              June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
                              The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI

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