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  • Lets talk Full Manual control

    i feel as if im cheating my engine with my A4 i know its got more power than its getting to the wheels, i know i could get a small shift kit and retune my trans to help shift harder, but ive convinced myself i want somesort of manual control, an M6 conversion is around $5,000 (right?). and a trans go full manual kit is obviously much less, anyone with experience here please chime in
    http://transgoonline.com/products.ph...dcountview=Yes
    1997 Trans Am
    T56 swap. LS1 Cosmetics

  • #2
    Going with full manual valve body isn't going to put more power to the ground. It allows you to hold a gear, upshift or downshift when you want. Stock 4l60's pumps don't like high rpm.

    T56 swap can be done for less than two grand, depending on what clutch you put in.

    1998 Camaro Z28 - Bright Red, 6.0 TR224, 4l60e, 3.42 Eaton TrueTrac
    1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible - 355 big tube TPI, WC T5, 3.42 Zexel Torsen, CTS-V/C4 brakes
    1955 Bel Air 2 Door Post - 357 TPI, Muncie M20, 4 wheel disc

    2006 Saab 9-7x 5.3i Daily Driver

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    • #3
      Transgo HD2 and a Corvette Servo!


      If you want to spend that kind of money, get a beast shell, new steels and clutches, solenoid kit, planetary gears, and a wider 2/4 band and build a nice 4l60e the right way.
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      1996 Base Model
      +2 cylinder mod

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      • #4
        Maybe I don't understand but why don't you just drive it manually then with the shifter? I don't downshift into 1st, but I do downshift and upshift from 2 through 4 when I drive Red Alert.

        That said - if you're drag racing it's 100% silly to do anything other than put it in regular drive and mash the gas.
        - Brian Meissen
        Owner, MiFBody.com
        Administrator, LTxTech.com


        1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
        2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"
        Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
        June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
        The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI

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        • #5
          Originally posted by hoogiesngrinderz View Post
          Going with full manual valve body isn't going to put more power to the ground. It allows you to hold a gear, upshift or downshift when you want. Stock 4l60's pumps don't like high rpm.

          T56 swap can be done for less than two grand, depending on what clutch you put in.
          well that sounds nice, but how much in labor are we talking?
          Originally posted by meissen View Post
          Maybe I don't understand but why don't you just drive it manually then with the shifter? I don't downshift into 1st, but I do downshift and upshift from 2 through 4 when I drive Red Alert.

          That said - if you're drag racing it's 100% silly to do anything other than put it in regular drive and mash the gas.
          what about a nice stall? i know youve got one is it worth it? hows the driving?
          Last edited by QuickTop; June 14th, 2012, 10:58 AM.
          1997 Trans Am
          T56 swap. LS1 Cosmetics

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          • #6
            A good converter will give you the best performance gain out of any single mod you do other than maybe nitrous.


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            • #7
              Yeah I've got a nice converter in it, makes the auto a lot more fun to drive. With Steve's tune it shifts from 1st to 2nd real nice and sharp, 3rd and 4th shifts aren't as hard but still good. I'm not sure if it's just my tune or if it's the way all our FBodies are, but I basically control all the upshifts with the shifter.
              - Brian Meissen
              Owner, MiFBody.com
              Administrator, LTxTech.com


              1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
              2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"
              Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
              June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
              The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI

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              • #8
                Could always go lenco, jerico, or hollinger
                1996 Trans Am WS6 - long term project


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                • #9
                  If you're going to spend the cash, go big or go home! 4l80e FTW :

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jetice View Post
                    Could always go lenco, jerico, or hollinger
                    I don't think he even wants to know the prices for those. Lol

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by meissen View Post
                      Yeah I've got a nice converter in it, makes the auto a lot more fun to drive. With Steve's tune it shifts from 1st to 2nd real nice and sharp, 3rd and 4th shifts aren't as hard but still good. I'm not sure if it's just my tune or if it's the way all our FBodies are, but I basically control all the upshifts with the shifter.
                      Whats your stall at? im looking at 2500, and its my summer DD..
                      1997 Trans Am
                      T56 swap. LS1 Cosmetics

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                      • #12
                        I'm at 3600 I believe. But LS1s usually go up to 4000. Mine is perfect for daily driving.
                        - Brian Meissen
                        Owner, MiFBody.com
                        Administrator, LTxTech.com


                        1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
                        2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"
                        Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
                        June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
                        The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI

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                        • #13
                          4k here. Auto cars are SOOOO boring without a decent converter.
                          1999 Camaro - 6 liters of fury.....

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by meissen View Post
                            I'm at 3600 I believe. But LS1s usually go up to 4000. Mine is perfect for daily driving.
                            ive got an lt1 remember ill think about going higher.
                            1997 Trans Am
                            T56 swap. LS1 Cosmetics

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                            • #15
                              mine stalled at about 6500

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