New here need head cam 12 bolt up grade

[SS4Matt]

I get most of what your saying but Im still learning about rear ends, so whats is a "channel"? IF I get what your saying I have a 4 channel (both ABS and ASR?) rear end, so If I went to a dana S60 I would have to give up one of the systems?( ASR for sure)

3 Channel means ABS only, NO ASR
4 Channel means ABS and ASR

with a 4 channel, you don't have to lose anything with any of the rear ends. (not 100% sure about the S60, but 12 bolt and 9" i know for sure you will not lose either of the 2)
with a 3 channel, you will lose your ABS with a 9" because of the way the pickup for the ABS is on 3 channel rear ends.

i opted to lose my ABS with my 9" because i didn't care, and don't like the ABS anyways...

like i said before though, it's kindof the "rule of thumb" that if you are a manual car get the 9" if you are an auto, go with the 12 bolt. (12 bolt isn't as strong, but auto's are far less harsh on rears then manuals) and if you are just balls out and have assloads of power, then go with the S60

that's my understanding on the options

[wasjo6431]

as matt said. but im an auto going with a 9inch regardless.....
IMO the 9 inch is built better than the 12 bolt.

and i dont have ABS neway nemore.

i would def say the tr224 is too small for whatyour looking for an di dont even know what your looking for

[SlipStreamZ28]

3 Channel means ABS only, NO ASR
4 Channel means ABS and ASR

with a 4 channel, you don't have to lose anything with any of the rear ends. (not 100% sure about the S60, but 12 bolt and 9" i know for sure you will not lose either of the 2)
with a 3 channel, you will lose your ABS with a 9" because of the way the pickup for the ABS is on 3 channel rear ends.

i opted to lose my ABS with my 9" because i didn't care, and don't like the ABS anyways...

like i said before though, it's kindof the "rule of thumb" that if you are a manual car get the 9" if you are an auto, go with the 12 bolt. (12 bolt isn't as strong, but auto's are far less harsh on rears then manuals) and if you are just balls out and have assloads of power, then go with the S60

that's my understanding on the options

well if thats the case then I dont see any reason not to go with the S60, its cheaper than the 12 bolt (I dont know what a strange 9" costs) and stronger then both the 12 bolt and the 9".

[SS4Matt]

yeah but if you have to question whether you're going to break a 9" or not and actually need something stronger, you're running a lot of HP. my 9" with the TrueTrac was gaurenteed to handle abuse into the 10's. and if i break it, i'll be proud of myself and then get a spool.

the thing is the 9" weighs an assload. and the S60...well it weighs even more.

to put it into perspective, i can heev-HO a 10 bolt into the back of a pickup with out too much of a problem.

when i got my 9" it took both my step dad and I to get the 9" out of the bed of the truck!

the S60 is a beast. if you are looking for a rear end, i'de talk with a guy named scott at Driveline-solutions, he built me 2 rear ends, and does great work.

[DETROITMUSCLE]

If I don't find the 12 bolt I'm looking for used I'll be calling him sometime this winter probably. Gotta keep up with Matt you know lol

[72A-Body]

jeff that guy at woodward the other nite wanted to sell me a 12 bolt. idk if it would work for your car or not cuz it was off like a 70 camaro i think, it had 4.56 rear end tho and he wanted 1300. i already have the 12 bolt but hey does that rear end guy do gears cuz i wanna find a good place for when i change mine

[DETROITMUSCLE]

Hey he'll do gears hes the best around from what I've heard. I'll have to look into that rear but I believe the older rear ends are different, anyone know for sure?

[CollinsAutomotive]

Hey he'll do gears hes the best around from what I've heard. I'll have to look into that rear but I believe the older rear ends are different, anyone know for sure?

not torque arm mount.

[DETROITMUSCLE]

well that would be a very bad thing thanks Sean

[CollinsAutomotive]

well that would be a very bad thing thanks Sean

you still hunting around for a 12 bolt ????

[DETROITMUSCLE]

I may be depending on the price.

[SS4Matt]

i have this funny feeling you're talking about Pete trying to sell you that 12 bolt he has out of a second gen F-Body.

his handle on here is SLP SS i believe

[SlipStreamZ28]

yeah but if you have to question whether you're going to break a 9" or not and actually need something stronger, you're running a lot of HP. my 9" with the TrueTrac was gaurenteed to handle abuse into the 10's. and if i break it, i'll be proud of myself and then get a spool.

the thing is the 9" weighs an assload. and the S60...well it weighs even more.

to put it into perspective, i can heev-HO a 10 bolt into the back of a pickup with out too much of a problem.

when i got my 9" it took both my step dad and I to get the 9" out of the bed of the truck!

the S60 is a beast. if you are looking for a rear end, i'de talk with a guy named scott at Driveline-solutions, he built me 2 rear ends, and does great work.

Good point I didnt think about weight, Thanks for the lead on the rear end builder as well, My 10 bolt has seen better days so Im gonna be in the market soon.

[1BADAIR]

i got my 12 bolt for 1400

[DETROITMUSCLE]

i got my 12 bolt for 1400

Thats exactly hat I'll be looking for this winter, if not then next spring for sure.