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    1991 Pontiac Firebird 3.1 v6
    I think it's the starter. Won't even attempt to turn over; no clicking.
    It used to start up right away everytime but since I got it out from hibernation, it's taken longer and longer to turn over. The last time I started my car, it took 2 attempts and about 3 seconds to turn over on the second attempt. I got home and turned it off and it wouldn't start back up. I had a neighbor help me push her into the garage.
    The 'service engine' light is on; the security light doesn't flash. All the fliuds are good; I just changed my oil. I replaced the starter shortly after I bought Bubblicious in 2005 and it has a lifetime warranty. My receipt is faded but they should still have me in the system.

    Update: If the starter is bad, AutoZone will give me a new one for free!
    Last edited by Chicklet; June 7th, 2012, 09:42 AM.
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    Good battery, good connections, and a good 12v source to kick the solenoid make for a happy starter. If you have all that, the starter flat lined on you

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    • #3
      My friend said it might be the solenoid. I'm gonna try tapping on it, sometimes that'll kick it in gear.
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      • #4
        dead starter you will usually hear one "click" to me it sounds like your not getting enough juice to even get it to click. I'd check all connections, clean off any corrosion and check the solenoid like your friend stated. I am betting its the solenoid or even both the solenoid and the starter.
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        • #5
          I just called AutoZone, I get a free one if it's bad!

          Next question: Is a starter easy to change out? Like, easy like changing the oil, fuel filter, and IAC (cuz those are easy things I can do).
          Last edited by Chicklet; June 7th, 2012, 09:45 AM.
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          • #6
            Yup it is, 2 big bolts holding the starter in place, should be 1 small bolt for the soleniod wire and she falls out
            '91 Camaro Modded, LSx, House of Kolor Intense White, lowered, GS chrome 18" wheels, 14" Brembo CTS-V on all 4 corners, LS rear end, FP suspension components

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Gregs_gsxr View Post
              Yup it is, 2 big bolts holding the starter in place, should be 1 small bolt for the soleniod wire and she falls out
              Thanks! I'm nervous! LOL
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              • #8
                The soleniod remains attached to the starter, right? The wire is just attached to the car?

                What size do you think the bolts are? I have a metric tool set with about 12-15 different sizes.
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                • #9
                  Yes there is a small purple colored wire that goes to one post then the power wire goes to another. Its pretty easy and right above your head if you lay under the car on the passenger side.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Darren View Post
                    Yes there is a small purple colored wire that goes to one post then the power wire goes to another. Its pretty easy and right above your head if you lay under the car on the passenger side.
                    If I remember correctly, it's in the center of the car along the firewall...
                    The instructions I found online say I have to disconnect the battery. That scares me.
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                    • #11
                      Disconnect and isolate battery. Disconnect t large power wire from start. And the smaller S wire. Remove the two starter bolts

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                      • #12
                        If it scares you, call up someone to help. But it is literally two bolts holding it to the engine, two nuts holding on two wires. And yes, disconnect the battery so you don't do any welding down below

                        1998 Camaro Z28 - Bright Red, 6.0 TR224, 4l60e, 3.42 Eaton TrueTrac
                        1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible - 355 big tube TPI, WC T5, 3.42 Zexel Torsen, CTS-V/C4 brakes
                        1955 Bel Air 2 Door Post - 357 TPI, Muncie M20, 4 wheel disc

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Chicklet View Post
                          The soleniod remains attached to the starter, right? The wire is just attached to the car?

                          What size do you think the bolts are? I have a metric tool set with about 12-15 different sizes.

                          The 2 starter bolts have a 9/16" or 15mm head on them. You may have to remove the inspection cover for the torque convertor if the car is an automatic and this will have 4 bolts with a 10mm head on them.There is also a stater battery cable that needs to be unbolted from the solenoid and if the starter has a small bracket on the rear of it, that too will need to come off the starter to get the starter out.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 2002Z4CSS View Post
                            the inspection cover for the torque convertor
                            I don't have a clue what that is or what it looks like. It didn't say anything about it in these instructions I found on RockAuto's website.

                            Yeah, I'll need help. I only have ramps, no jack or jack stands... DAMMIT ROBIN! So hey, if anyone's bored tonight and in the GR area...
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                            • #15
                              Possibly, but I just blew apart my rear u-joint a few minutes ago while hot rodding my Camaro

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                              1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible - 355 big tube TPI, WC T5, 3.42 Zexel Torsen, CTS-V/C4 brakes
                              1955 Bel Air 2 Door Post - 357 TPI, Muncie M20, 4 wheel disc

                              2006 Saab 9-7x 5.3i Daily Driver

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