engine build

[1BADAIR]

a ls2 or l92 with a cam and 4000 stall would runs 10's all day.
no need for an lsx

[JoeliusZ28]

[B]Ill tell you right now, To build a LT1 with 500+ HP. It will coast ya about the same. to do it right, A ls1 is about the same price... Do the ls1 you'll be much happyer and you will get alot better gass mailage, and be more relible as well.

I dont necessarily agree with that. There are LT1s on camaroz28.com running very low 11s with heads and cam on stock cubes... and since he is open to using nitrous, thats all he would need to cross the boundary.

I completely agree with larry, no need for an lsx.... a properly setup LS1 will do it cheaper.

[Superman09]

as everyone is saying, 600 Flywheel HP will be hard to make, especially on a budget. IMO your going to need at least 4xx cubes considering your budget you wont be able to get real fancy heads or valvetrain. From what i'm speculating, your getting in over your head. If you just want to do 10's than that goal will be cheaper i believe. You just need to get the car to hook. 600 engine hp isn't too bad, once you start getting up in the 600+ RWHP range is when it gets a little iffy on the street without supporting suspension and tire mods.

As for your rear end, you can make it live with 600 flywheel hp and no issues, but it won't meet your 10 second goal because you will just be spinning. If you want the 10 sec goal, your probably going to need the rear end as well which will cut more into your budget. My car mad 667 RWHP and i was on a bone stock rear with a drag radial out back. It would still throw the car out from under me at anything under a 50 roll FWIW

[Superman09]

Cheapest way to hit 10's i believe would be to do an auto ls1 with a 3600-4000 stall, set of prostars or drag wheels, do a decent sized cam in the motor and spray a 150 shot. Pending you hook that should get you close to 10's.

[shawnc16]

I disagree with the cheapest methods stated above. A Gen I block say you start with a 355, stock crank, I beams and some forged pistons with a Solid Roller and 250 shot is a pretty cheap ass method. I bet you wouldn't spend too much more than 2500 on that setup. The coolness factor of an LS engine is definitely up there but, not the cheapest.

I built an engine at school with a fully cast bottom end, some cheap heads and a 125 shot. That little turd put down 42X HP to the wheels.

[Superman09]

i dont know much about the old SBC stuff

[WMCCjames]

i dont know much about the old SBC stuff

Bah....old, new, thier all the same...except heavier, more inefficiant and leak all the damn time.

[shawnc16]

Lol good point. Change of plans : Buy a 98-02.

[PACE]

I dont necessarily agree with that. There are LT1s on camaroz28.com running very low 11s with heads and cam on stock cubes... and since he is open to using nitrous, thats all he would need to cross the boundary.

I completely agree with larry, no need for an lsx.... a properly setup LS1 will do it cheaper.

I now what your saying, But how long do they normaly last, (NOT LONG) as much research i have done, they dont last, and not near as strong as the ls1. And when you go spray NOS on top of that on a LT-1 your asking for problems... Plan and simple for the money you cannot beat a LS1,2 OR 3...
JUSTIN

[81DaytonaPaceCar]

I disagree with the cheapest methods stated above. A Gen I block say you start with a 355, stock crank, I beams and some forged pistons with a Solid Roller and 250 shot is a pretty cheap ass method. I bet you wouldn't spend too much more than 2500 on that setup. The coolness factor of an LS engine is definitely up there but, not the cheapest.

I built an engine at school with a fully cast bottom end, some cheap heads and a 125 shot. That little turd put down 42X HP to the wheels.

I'm with Shawn on this one, especially if cost is a factor...

Find a 400 4-bolt main...$300.

A good set of heads...$1500.

Intake, quality carb, headers...$750.

Don't skimp on ignition...$1000.

600+ crank hp for cheap...maybe between $4000-5000...

Not a stretch by any measure, and reliable.

Building horsepower is cheap...transferring to the pavement gets expensive...

[Virtue]

a 500whp lsx (not that actual lsx block but a hybrid of ls1,2,and 3) can be made for under 5500 even under 5k without cuttin corners either

i have a baby cam in my car,stock heads and intake and still put down very good numbers hahahaha and it still has a shit load left in it.

theres no magic hp number to run 10's ive seen under 400whp ls1 cars running that some how

[WMCCjames]

I'm with Shawn on this one, especially if cost is a factor...

Find a 400 4-bolt main...$300.

A good set of heads...$1500.

Intake, quality carb, headers...$750.

Don't skimp on ignition...$1000.

600+ crank hp for cheap...maybe between $4000-5000...

Not a stretch by any measure, and reliable.

Building horsepower is cheap...transferring to the pavement gets expensive...

You forgot the really expensive part...the rotating assembly....which he will need if he is gonna spray it.

[81DaytonaPaceCar]

You forgot the really expensive part...the rotating assembly....which he will need if he is gonna spray it.

He won't need to spray it...

But, yes, the rotating assembly will need to be addressed, which is why I allowed a few extra $$$ to be included.

This would actually be a good study for all involved...a Gen I carb version, versus a LSx version...

[shawnc16]

Theres a lot more to just throwing an LS engine in a third gen... James knows all about it. Honestly I'd scrap the "budget build" That won't last because a budget build is all about cutting corners to lower the costs.

Find something that you like and get a plan together, Its a slow process unless yur rich and have money to burn. Projects cars take lots of time and cost more money than you think. Build something you're going to enjoy without worrying about that part you bought to keep the cost down.

[WMCCjames]

He won't need to spray it...

But, yes, the rotating assembly will need to be addressed, which is why I allowed a few extra $$$ to be included.

This would actually be a good study for all involved...a Gen I carb version, versus a LSx version...

If he wants to go 10's on that motor he most certainly will have to spray it unless he is installing the motor in a miata.