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    What is the best place to go with madtunerz, pcmforless, etc. Give me some personnal opinons
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    93 Z28
    Fresh LT1
    Current mods: headers,3in exhaust, CAI,egr and air delete, TB bypass, mild cam.
    Shift kit, 2600 stall, custom valve body.

    Looking for more power

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    My personal opinion is that its a waste of money, go put on a blindfold and play darts you'll do just as well.
    Doing less with more


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    • #3
      jeff basically covered it. Unless you have engine codes that you want deleted to remove your SES light, they can do that no problem. They can remove skip shift and calibrate for larger injectors too, but dont expect them to get your AFR right or timing right

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      • #4
        Trifecta is the best out there for "mail-order", but its not just one tune. Vince sends you the tune, you upload it, then you can datalog and send it to him, and he'll tweak it, send you a new one. Repeat till it's nice and done. That's what I did with my car!
        Gone but not forgotten: 1986 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z

        "You shall ride eternal. Shiny and chrome."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MP81 View Post
          Trifecta is the best out there for "mail-order", but its not just one tune. Vince sends you the tune, you upload it, then you can datalog and send it to him, and he'll tweak it, send you a new one. Repeat till it's nice and done. That's what I did with my car!
          much better procedure IMO if you are going to do it without the tuner being present.
          Doing less with more


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          • #6
            DYNO TUNE is the best way to go hands down.
            Mail order tune may work for you, but.....................you get what you pay for.
            97 30th anv Z28 Lt1 Ported Heads and Intake, small Cam, LT's, SLP LM1 w/power flow conversion and cut out, Stalled A4, 3.73, 125 shot or so......... Custom EVI Tune and more to come...... SOLD
            1971 Suburban work in progress
            1969 Mach 1 In restoration process
            Waiting to find the right Fbody

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            • #7
              Yeah - I paid $250 for mine, and my car runs just fine.

              But most mail-orders aren't like mine...
              Gone but not forgotten: 1986 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z

              "You shall ride eternal. Shiny and chrome."

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              • #8
                mail order tunes are not a waste of time, I've had better luck with mail order tunes then a few hack jobs on this site.
                last time i had a tune from someone on this site, not saying who, my shifts sucked, my car puffed blue smoke, and constantly tried to die at red lights...
                for 250 dollars F that

                I pay 40 dollars for my mail order tunes and they haven't let me down yet

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                • #9
                  I went with PCM4Less and they didn't let me down. Of course, like others have said, they don't know the exact AFR and various timing needs to be tweaked, but all in all, it got me to the M&G and hasn't thrown a code yet. I plan on making a trip out to SBT to fine tune, but at the moment, I have some breathing room and it does run WAY better than it did before.
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                  Why the Hell do I have to press 1 for english?!


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                  • #10
                    A mail order tune will never be as good, as somebody dyno tuning, or driving your call while tuning it. Well worth the money in my opinion. With that said, i'm on a budget and for a cam only and bolt on car.....my car has run pretty good for the last year or so with a tune from madz28. The mail orders are plenty cheaper, but like somebody already said......you get what you pay for.
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                    1994 Camaro Z28 83K M6, CAI, AFR 190cc, 11.6:1, Hooker headers, Hooker ORY, Mangnaflow exhaust, AI 230/238, 1.6 RR, B&M Short throw, Hays clutch, 4.10 gear.

                    Member: The Mid Michigan Modern Muscle Car Club

                    Originally Posted by 1BADAIR
                    manuals should be launched off the limiter and the throttle shouldn't leave the floor til 10 feet after the finish line

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                    • #11
                      yep. mail order has no idea about actual fuel pressure, true injector size, local fuel quality, TRUE cam size(ever seen a cam doctor card for a custom cam?probably doesnt match the cam card)

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                      • #12
                        well im going to a shop on monday to figure out my true cam specs, dont know how thats gonna go??? Ive heard you can hook it up to a very expensive scanner and it can pull info like cam specs, cuz im not tearing it down to find my cam specs.

                        But yea i know a dyno tune is the best but the only place ive found to do it is all the way out in jackson and it was over $500 which i dont have right now.

                        So thats why im going with a mail order tune, i have the burnable chips anyways(93). Its not a stroker engine or anything like that. Just a bolt on car for right now.

                        As for the Fuel pressure and injectors i have the stock injectors.
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                        93 Z28
                        Fresh LT1
                        Current mods: headers,3in exhaust, CAI,egr and air delete, TB bypass, mild cam.
                        Shift kit, 2600 stall, custom valve body.

                        Looking for more power

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                        • #13
                          Another thing do you guys know any place in the downriver area or close to the area that could dyno tune my car since its an OBD1, ive called local shops but they wont deal with it.

                          Im in Romulus, its right next to Taylor. Just trying to find a shop so in the future i can get it dyno tuned.
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                          93 Z28
                          Fresh LT1
                          Current mods: headers,3in exhaust, CAI,egr and air delete, TB bypass, mild cam.
                          Shift kit, 2600 stall, custom valve body.

                          Looking for more power

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                          • #14
                            the other thing. street tune is even better than a dyno tune. actual load and airflow

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 1BADAIR View Post
                              the other thing. street tune is even better than a dyno tune. actual load and airflow
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                              -Joel
                              1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                              1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


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