Looking at sub-frame connectors...whats good?

[JoeliusZ28]

those are the type ive got. but kenny brown double diamonds. I dont think they are doing their job anymore but it could be alot to do with the welds failing. Im planning on cutting them out and getting something else eventually.

[white97z28]

I would not put them on my car. Thats just my opinion. Why put 3-point connectors on your car if they are connected with flat steal? Its going to flex. Its not going to be as strong a tubular or boxed 3-point connectors. Again, just my 2 cents. Are you just looking for "low cost"?

Its not that cost is an issue im just not trying to spend any more then 300 bucks to get them and install them. I just don't want to cheap out and have problems down the road but i also dont want to spend 500 bucks on subframe conectors.

[1qwikSS]

i have Kenny Brown Double Diamonds (3 pt weld in's) however i have not installed them yet. Bought them a lil before xmas and im waiting til spring to put them on. Ill let you know how the install goes and if i can tell a difference. As far as bolt in Vs. weld ins go....heres my analogy.....Think of a rubber tire backhoe and a backhoe with metal tracks....its much easier to get stuck in a rubber tire backhoe because all the weight is pinpointed to 4 contact points (the wheels) touching the ground whereas the metal tracks weight is distributed throughout the span of the machine. So in bolt on SFC's the entire force is pushed through a couple bolts instead of throughout the whole SFC i.e (weld ins)....now with that being said.....brian holds a valid point in regards to our sub 500hp cars actually needing to be welded in. In my case, weld ins were cheaper, and my dad was an ironworker for 15 years before he became a millwright at chrysler and he has a mig and a tig welder...so he is my welding shop!!

[98blackbeauty]

Damn 2" drop springs make it near to impossible to get at anything under the car...hopefuly the shop that car do the weld up also has a drive on lift. and if i buy bolt ons i can just set the front on tire ramps and put the rear end on jack stands and that would be like sitting on the ground right?

I would think you would have to put piece of sod on the ramps and jack stand so they represent ground. .....................LOL

[Phantom409]

When you put sub-frames on you will want the weight of the car supported by the wheels so that the frame don't twist.
If you hold the rear up with a jack it will be possible for the frame to be tweaked just a little.

[Phantom409]

I sent UMI an e-mail on welding in Sub-Frames and this is what they told me:
No, the carpet does not need removed when welding this item in place and
there is nothing else to be concerned of. These fall right into place and
the installation is fairly easy.

[Fbomb]

So can the rear LCA's be unbolted while the car is being supported by the rear axle?

[meissen]

I'm still hesitant on the idea of them welding with the carpet right against the floorpans. Sean at CARS lit Pete's carpet on fire.

[Phantom409]

So can the rear LCA's be unbolted while the car is being supported by the rear axle?

Yes they can.

[JoeliusZ28]

Yes they can.

um i would be VERY VERY careful with that, especially if the car is jacked up on an angle and supported with the ebrake. not something i would try even if is possible.

[DETROITMUSCLE]

I'm still hesitant on the idea of them welding with the carpet right against the floorpans. Sean at CARS lit Pete's carpet on fire.

they never touched the carpet on my car and no problems, remember who did Pete's work

[Fbomb]

How would I go about bolting in the rear of the SFC since the LCA and the SFC share a common bolt? or are they different bolts?

[Phantom409]

How would I go about bolting in the rear of the SFC since the LCA and the SFC share a common bolt? or are they different bolts?

Do 1 at a time.
I would never do both at the same time.
Sorry if my last post was confusing.

[DETROITMUSCLE]

yep one at a time and you'll be ok

[meissen]

Well I took the plunge and ordered a set of 3pts.