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  • RA's Starting Issue...

    Well, the kinks keep on working up.

    Starter does not have a heat shield.
    Starter is not shimmed - there were no shims on it when I took it off.
    Starter has had the casting grinded (ground just doesn't sound right) down because the flexplate's counter balance was hitting it.

    Sunday after driving home from Milford (45 minute drive minimum, 1hr max), I backed into the drive way and then turned the car off. Angie said I could back up more so I went to start it and it just would click once - a very solid click, but only one click. Dan [mcssmostwanted] said it was probably heat soaked from the headers and to let it sit. I let it sit for about a half hour to an hour and then tried it and it started right up.

    Today, I came out to my car to drive home from work and it did the same thing again. But it had been sitting for 3 hours. This time I kept turning the key, click, off, key, click, off, key, click, off, key, click, off, key, click, crank, YAYYYYYY!!!! Drove home, backed in the driveway, and with my dad standing there I turned it off and immediately tried starting it again and I had no problems what-so-ever. Tried turning it off and on about 5 times and every time it started right up.

    So - what's the verdict? My dad thinks the starter needs to be shimmed, I think the starter is going bad because of the heat from the headers and not having a heat shield on it.
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    Starter needs to be replaced/heat shielded
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    Last edited by meissen; June 16th, 2009, 04:54 PM.
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  • #2
    Maybe...or the solenoid is toast.

    Heat soaking aside (and it could very well be that...and that could fry the solenoid...), it sounds more like a solenoid issue.

    But the good news is that they're cheap...
    Originally posted by Redd8407
    I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
    Originally posted by Z28ISGR8
    WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
    Originally posted by Darren
    I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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    • #3
      yeah its the solenoid going bad, mine did that same thing last week, sometimes it would start other times it wouldnt. You need a new started and I probably would mock up some kind of heat shield for it too.
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      Originally posted by meissen
      I actually agree with Darren on everything he said...
      Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar
      Yep, pretty much...not too often I agree 100% with Darren, but there it is...


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      • #4
        Get yourself a mini high torque starter that is clockable...they kick ass....also wrap it with some reflective heat wrap......you will never have the problem again.
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        • #5
          i have one of the summit starters with out the cone housing and its awsome, i kept snapping the starter so i went with this one and have had no problems in the last 4 or 5 years.
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          • #6
            solenoid - that was the first problem i ever had with my car.
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            • #7
              I'm with the masses and say soleniod.
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              • #8
                Why isn't there a heat shield on it? And sounds exactly like what my old bird did, when the solenoid was bad.

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                • #9
                  We didn't put one on?

                  Is the solenoid part of the starter or is it separate entirely? I can't find a diagram on Shbox.
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                  • #10
                    sounds like a dead spot in the starter to me

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                    • #11
                      The solenoid is attatched to the starter. You might as well just buy a new starter and heat wrap it.
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                      I actually agree with Darren on everything he said...
                      Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar
                      Yep, pretty much...not too often I agree 100% with Darren, but there it is...


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                      • #12
                        I'm with everyone else B.

                        The LPP's aren't ceramic coated like a Hooker so they will give off a little more heat.
                        Do like James said and get a shield wrap for it, Summit has them.
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                        • #13
                          Haha no it's cool - that means y'all are agreeing with me - my dad was arguing that it was a gear mesh issue.
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                          June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
                          The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI

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                          • #14
                            Well I told you last nite I thought it was the starter/solenoid.
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                            • #15
                              If it was a gear mesh issue then you would hear the starter gear bounce off the flywheel and it would have done this from day one.

                              Double check the connections to the starter if one or more is loose it can cause such problems but most likely it's a heat issue like stated by everyone else.
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