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  • #16
    if you want a stall, do like a yank (or have mike ridings build you one)3600-4000 if you still wanna daily drive it
    just a bolt-on Lt1

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    • #17
      This is oly my opinion but on what I have read a 110-118 LSA (Lobe Seperation Angle) is what you would wnat to stay with for decent driving.

      If you get the lobes to close together like 109 or less you will run into vacume problems and that will cause breaking problems.
      You can buy a vacume pump to help with this but why do it if you don't have to.

      In my LT-1 I have a 108 LSA and I have JUST enough vacume to run my breaks.
      I'm right on the edge



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      • #18
        A Vengeance racing "vindicator" cam and TFS 215's would make killer power!


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        • #19
          I love the tfs heads but the bad thing is you have to buy aftermarket rockers.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by 1BADAIR View Post
            I love the tfs heads but the bad thing is you have to buy aftermarket rockers.
            Ya but they are woth it
            She says money isn't an isue so charge it up



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            • #21
              alright, ive been making a lot of progress with this, but im still not quite there. ill let you know when i decide on something

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              • #22
                Hey Liz,
                A nice set up here for ya
                - RUN THE AIR FLOW RESEARCH CNC 205 HEADS
                - CAM, RUN THE 224/228 ON A 114 LSA PN6016
                - CAN DO THE CRANE CAMS 1.7:1 ROLLER ROCKERS & 7.350 INCH PUSHRODS.
                - 90 mm AFR BILLET THROTTLE BODY PN5040
                - 85 mm MAF (stock from a 03' LS6 )
                - 36 LBHR INJECTORS..

                ( you will be looking at good #'s here and great power gains)

                THIS SHOULD BE A REALLY NICE SET UP FOR YA...

                Pace...
                Last edited by PACE; May 20th, 2008, 12:50 PM.

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                • #23
                  k, ive actually asked a couple of places about what they think and one of them got back to me today with this. lol, im still looking around and prolly wont make a decision for a couple of weeks

                  Trick Flow 215cc LS1 cnc'd cylinder heads
                  HPE S+ Cam (238/242 on a 113 lsa, .605/.608 lift)
                  Trick Flow 7.500 pushrods
                  GM MLS Head Gaskets
                  Yella Terra Ultra Lite roller rockers
                  Fast 92mm intake manifold
                  Fast 92mm throttle body
                  LS6 MAF sensor
                  ASP Underdrive pulley
                  Belts for pulley
                  160* thermostat
                  NGK TR6 Spark plugs
                  MSD 8.5mm wires

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by MORNINGSTAR2101 View Post
                    k, ive actually asked a couple of places about what they think and one of them got back to me today with this. lol, im still looking around and prolly wont make a decision for a couple of weeks

                    Trick Flow 215cc LS1 cnc'd cylinder heads
                    HPE S+ Cam (238/242 on a 113 lsa, .605/.608 lift)
                    Trick Flow 7.500 pushrods
                    GM MLS Head Gaskets
                    Yella Terra Ultra Lite roller rockers
                    Fast 92mm intake manifold
                    Fast 92mm throttle body
                    LS6 MAF sensor
                    ASP Underdrive pulley
                    Belts for pulley
                    160* thermostat
                    NGK TR6 Spark plugs
                    MSD 8.5mm wires
                    cam is kinda big for daily driving
                    those FAST parts are not necessary
                    neither is under drive
                    just a bolt-on Lt1

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                    • #25
                      yea i think that cam is really big for daily driving actually. Heck, mines gonna be smaller than that and im afraid mine will want too many RPMs for a stock block (but i have an LT1). anything in the high 230s is gonna do some bucking and surging. Remember what some people consider driveable is probably not what you would consider that.

                      Jons torquer V3 which, IIRC, is 231/234 probably has more surge than you would want, but an automatic would help absorb it. Check into that cam, i would go no bigger than that.

                      also check out this thread i stickied a few months back. It really helps explain a lot of the basics.
                      http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=14551

                      To put it in cliff notes however, driveability is primarily based on overlap. More overlap = less driveability. Overlap can be made with a large duration, such as a 240 range cam, or a tight LSA, such as a 106. (or obviously both). If you want a cam that doesnt rev to the moon, but still chops, then go with a smaller duration cam with a tighter LSA. Most shelf cams are 112 which i believe to be pretty conservative. Even beyond that you can advance or retard the cam to make more low end or top end power.

                      I think a cam in the high 220s with a 112 LSA would be good for you. I dont know how crazy you are though.
                      Last edited by JoeliusZ28; May 20th, 2008, 07:58 PM.
                      -Joel
                      1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
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                      • #26
                        cams in the low to mid 230's still drive like stock. If not the tuner sucks!
                        That cam is a little big but would probably make 460+ with an auto.
                        TFS with a 226/228(VRX3) and the mods listed would probably pull 440+ and drive like a caddy.
                        If you really want to wake it up have TEA port the TFS's

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by 1BADAIR View Post
                          cams in the low to mid 230's still drive like stock. If not the tuner sucks!
                          Agreed. Jeff's car has a cam VERY similar to the cam you listed Liz and the car drives very good and has no bucking or surging


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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by c0ncEpT View Post
                            Agreed. Jeff's car has a cam VERY similar to the cam you listed Liz and the car drives very good and has no bucking or surging
                            mileage would suffer and a larger convertor would be needed with that cam though.
                            with the 226/228 it would still get mid 20's MPG I would think

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                            • #29
                              I'm happy with how my car drive because it has a great tune, it actually still bucks at around 46mph with my foot off the gas but hardly ever, the gas milage isn't stellar but thats not what I'm out for either
                              Doing less with more


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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by DETROITMUSCLE View Post
                                I'm happy with how my car drive because it has a great tune, it actually still bucks at around 46mph with my foot off the gas but hardly ever, the gas milage isn't stellar but thats not what I'm out for either
                                if i were concerned about mileage, i wouldnt have purchased a camaro thats why i have the escort. also, pace came up with a new setup for me

                                AFR MONGOOSE 205 FULLY CNC 66CC CHAMBERS HEADS COMPLETE,
                                Si 4 Custom Cam 228/228 .588 .588 in/ex. with a 113 lsa.. -
                                SLP double roller timming set,
                                Chrome moly push rods 7.400 length(stock),
                                GM racing lifter set,
                                Cometic Head Gaskets .051 Thickness,
                                SLP 85mm MAF conversion Kit
                                K&N COLD air intake system,
                                Walbro fuel pump 255l,
                                Vigilante Converter 3200-3400 stall

                                and then get the trans rebuilt

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