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  • I'm getting my car tuned for E-85 next friday!

    I just want to let everyone know that I am getting my car tuned for E-85 next Friday at Pro Dyno Tech in Crawfordsville, IN. They are really good with E-85 and have a lot of experience. I am also getting it tune for 93 octane just in case I am not by a E-85 Station. I can't wait to see the HP and Torque number differences between the two. I am going to run a full tank of each and try to keep my foot out of it () to see the mpg differences.

    Anyways I'm f'n excited and just wanted to let everyone know!
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    did you upgrade the fuel system to stainless?

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    • #3
      e85 actually decreases your mpg by a few miles per gallon, it's because the ethanol can not be combusted efficiently enough to reap it's full benefits. It is cheaper and may be comparable to 87 but it does have a decrease in mpg. Anyways let me know how it turns out between the two fuels
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      • #4
        Originally posted by cobalt camaro View Post
        e85 actually decreases your mpg by a few miles per gallon, it's because the ethanol can not be combusted efficiently enough to reap it's full benefits. It is cheaper and may be comparable to 87 but it does have a decrease in mpg. Anyways let me know how it turns out between the two fuels
        but at the same time it has a 105 octane rating which makes it a candidate for higher compression engines
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        • #5
          Who is even selling E85 around here? I know they built up a new ethanol plant behind my cousin's shop in Lake Odessa, but I've yet to see any pumps around here.

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          • #6
            I know there is one at the beltline and knapp, there also one on 44th street just west of i196/i96 (next to the cracker barel).

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            • #7
              As for the stainless steel, there is no need our fuel lines are already built to handle ethanol since it is already in gasoline, it is Methanol that you need to worry about. There are people that have run E-85 for 2+ years in our cars with no problem. I do have 60# injectors, even though you only need 42# injectors, but I have a head and cam, and I have a 255lph walbro pump.

              As for the mpg drop, I already knew about that that is why I want to do a comparison test. I've been doing a lot of research on it and there is a thread on LS1Tech that is 15 pages long about running E-85 in our cars. The most it will drop is 20-30% but if tuned well it will be less than that. I do have 11:1 compression which will help brun the fuel better. But I will let you know cobalt camaro and everybody else.

              As for E-85 stations there are 41 stations in the state of Michigan that sells it.
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              • #8
                Our cars are made to run LOW amounts of ethanol, not high concentrates like E85 which is much more corrosive than the 10-15% that's mixed with normal gas.

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                • #9
                  I know that the Meijer gas station at 54th and Clyde Park has E-85.

                  This should be interesting, looking forward to hearing your results, good luck!

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                  • #10
                    Ethanol + our plastic tanks = shortened fuel tank life

                    i know everyone 'reads' about people who "run this all day" but there are reasons why engineers pick different fuel system materials when running E-85

                    The problem wont present itself quickly and i think thats the problem, it takes a long time for this stuff to make its damage noticable to your fuel system

                    However, you can run it, just dont hold onto the car for 5+ years..

                    E-85 is the best 'cheap' race gas, if i was building a street and race vehicle i'd use E-85

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                    • #11
                      I did durability on E85 cars. There is a reason why the fuel lines and rail is differant

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                      • #12
                        best of luck....keep us posted!
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                        • #13
                          As far as is being corrosive, if I thought it was going to tear my car apart then I wouldn't use it and if it does become a problem then I will know well in advance because of the people that have been running it for 5 years will have problems before I do.

                          As for the plastic gas tanks thing Flex Fuel cars gas tanks are lined with plastic.

                          But Anyways, I didn't start this thread to create a fight I just wanted to let everyone know that I was going to be doing this and I would do a couple of experiments for everyone else. I will keep everyone posted
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by GETGONE View Post
                            Who is even selling E85 around here? I know they built up a new ethanol plant behind my cousin's shop in Lake Odessa, but I've yet to see any pumps around here.
                            i think the Meijer at LMD and wilson has it.

                            The gas station at the corner of Kenowa and Rivertown Avenue next to the stake n shake has it also.

                            Originally posted by DanO View Post
                            Ethanol + our plastic tanks = shortened fuel tank life
                            so in 93-97 cars you only have to worry about upgrading the lines then?
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                            • #15
                              I'm interested in seeing how this pans out I may make the switch myself if it works well.
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