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  • #16
    I am sorry if i offend some Camaro guys here but it must be said.



    I AM A FIREBIRD GUY TO THE CORE. I will not buy a new Camaro. It is not even a substitute for me. When they killed the Firebird my family and I made a decision to not buy another GM car until the Firebird returns. My family has never purchased any other brand other than GM. This is a sale loss of at least 100 new car sales, $3.4 million if they never bring it back.



    To give some backgroud my family is serious about GM products. If you take the middle initals of the men in out immediate family organized from oldest to youngest it spells GMC.

    Dad: Gregory
    Me: Michael
    Brother: Cole

    1996 Pontiac Firebird - Blue/Green Chameleon - 3.8L V6 (231ci)
    Totaled & Declared Dead: 08/07/2001 - Rebuilt & Reborn: 08/21/2002

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    • #17
      Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar
      Yes, the GTO is slated to make a return in 09/10 on the Zeta platform.

      On a related note, GM has renewed the rights to the Chevelle nameplate.

      Will we see it at the '07 Autoshow?
      Weren't Chevelle's and GTO's on the same chassis? A-Body?

      I think it would be sweet if they made a new Chevelle. I wonder if they plan on changing the Malibu back to RWD?

      1978 Pontiac Firebird Formula W66
      350 Small Block Chevy Bored .030 Over (355)

      GM Performance Parts Vortec Heads
      Holley 650cfm Double Pumper
      Edelbrock Performer-Plus Cam
      Edelbrock Vortec Performer RPM
      Hedman Hedders 1-5/8" Long Tubes
      2-1/2" Exhaust With "H" Pipe & Hooker Aero Chamber Mufflers
      TH350 With B&M Transpak Shift Kit & 2400rpm Stall B&M Tork Master Converter

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      • #18
        Originally posted by gtpson99
        I
        I AM A FIREBIRD GUY TO THE CORE. I will not buy a new Camaro. It is not even a substitute for me. When they killed the Firebird my family and I made a decision to not buy another GM car until the Firebird returns. My family has never purchased any other brand other than GM. This is a sale loss of at least 100 new car sales, $3.4 million if they never bring it back.
        So because they aren't building a firebird you won't but GM. That is just Crazy. What are you going to by instead a Import?
        Western Michigan Camaro Club ~ President
        1987 Camaro IROC-Z Pearl White & Black w/ Red Pearl, 355 TPI, A4, 3:42, AirRide,"GOMARO"
        2017 Silverado Double Cab Z71 Pepperdust Metallic, 5.3, A6, 3:42, "SASYZ71"
        2005 Pontiac Grand Prix GT White, 3800
        WMCC Website www.wmcamaro.org

        "A government big enough to give you everything you want,
        is strong enough to take everything you have." — Thomas Jefferson

        "Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who
        are willing to work and give to those who would not."
        Thomas Jefferson

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        • #19
          I'm not sure about a new Chevelle but what about this... a Lumina SS???

          http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/news/lu...oop-196763.php

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          • #20
            Originally posted by WMCC Gary
            So because they aren't building a firebird you won't but GM. That is just Crazy. What are you going to by instead a Import?
            No, i am still keeping my firebird. An example of what i am taking about is just last week my mother got a new car, instead of a Safari or Astro van she pruchased a Land Rover which is not a GM brand.

            1996 Pontiac Firebird - Blue/Green Chameleon - 3.8L V6 (231ci)
            Totaled & Declared Dead: 08/07/2001 - Rebuilt & Reborn: 08/21/2002

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            • #21
              Originally posted by gtpson99
              No, i am still keeping my firebird. An example of what i am taking about is just last week my mother got a new car, instead of a Safari or Astro van she pruchased a Land Rover which is not a GM brand.
              She bought a Import! Now that makes sense. Support the foriegn automakers, instead of the big 3. After all thats why they are in the mess they are and part of the reason why they are NOT building a FIREBIRD. I mean with GM losing money, they have to do what makes smart Business sense. Producing both the firebird and the camaro does not make sense the market is not big enough for both.
              Western Michigan Camaro Club ~ President
              1987 Camaro IROC-Z Pearl White & Black w/ Red Pearl, 355 TPI, A4, 3:42, AirRide,"GOMARO"
              2017 Silverado Double Cab Z71 Pepperdust Metallic, 5.3, A6, 3:42, "SASYZ71"
              2005 Pontiac Grand Prix GT White, 3800
              WMCC Website www.wmcamaro.org

              "A government big enough to give you everything you want,
              is strong enough to take everything you have." — Thomas Jefferson

              "Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who
              are willing to work and give to those who would not."
              Thomas Jefferson

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              • #22
                Originally posted by MrMojoRisin681
                Weren't Chevelle's and GTO's on the same chassis? A-Body?

                I think it would be sweet if they made a new Chevelle. I wonder if they plan on changing the Malibu back to RWD?
                Yes, they were .

                And the Impala is going rear wheel drive as well.

                Taking the Malibu to RWD just makes sense...
                Originally posted by Redd8407
                I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
                Originally posted by Z28ISGR8
                WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
                Originally posted by Darren
                I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by WMCC Gary
                  She bought a Import! Now that makes sense. Support the foriegn automakers, instead of the big 3. After all thats why they are in the mess they are and part of the reason why they are NOT building a FIREBIRD. I mean with GM losing money, they have to do what makes smart Business sense. Producing both the firebird and the camaro does not make sense the market is not big enough for both.
                  Land Rover is Ford. And i think Ford is one of the Big 3.

                  1996 Pontiac Firebird - Blue/Green Chameleon - 3.8L V6 (231ci)
                  Totaled & Declared Dead: 08/07/2001 - Rebuilt & Reborn: 08/21/2002

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by gtpson99
                    Land Rover is Ford. And i think Ford is one of the Big 3.
                    you said LAND ROVER I was thinking LAND CRUISER as in Toyota.
                    Western Michigan Camaro Club ~ President
                    1987 Camaro IROC-Z Pearl White & Black w/ Red Pearl, 355 TPI, A4, 3:42, AirRide,"GOMARO"
                    2017 Silverado Double Cab Z71 Pepperdust Metallic, 5.3, A6, 3:42, "SASYZ71"
                    2005 Pontiac Grand Prix GT White, 3800
                    WMCC Website www.wmcamaro.org

                    "A government big enough to give you everything you want,
                    is strong enough to take everything you have." — Thomas Jefferson

                    "Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who
                    are willing to work and give to those who would not."
                    Thomas Jefferson

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar
                      Yes, the GTO is slated to make a return in 09/10 on the Zeta platform.

                      On a related note, GM has renewed the rights to the Chevelle nameplate.

                      Will we see it at the '07 Autoshow?
                      It'd be about damn time!!! I've been telling everyone the line-up will be:

                      2 Door:
                      Mustang (Ford)
                      Challenger (Chrysler)
                      Camaro (GM)

                      4 Door:
                      (ok shit I forgot what the Ford 4 door was...)
                      Charger (Chrysler)
                      Chevelle (GM)

                      For over a year!
                      - Brian Meissen
                      Owner, MiFBody.com
                      Administrator, LTxTech.com


                      1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
                      2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"
                      Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
                      June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
                      The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by meissen
                        It'd be about damn time!!! I've been telling everyone the line-up will be:

                        2 Door:
                        Mustang (Ford)
                        Challenger (Chrysler)
                        Camaro (GM)

                        4 Door:
                        (ok shit I forgot what the Ford 4 door was...)
                        Charger (Chrysler)
                        Chevelle (GM)

                        For over a year!
                        Ford Fusion is best they got.

                        And the GM 4-door will likely be the RWD V8 Impala SS.

                        I've not heard even IF the Chevelle will be released, but just found it interesting that the Chevelle nameplate was renewed at the same time as the GTO.
                        Originally posted by Redd8407
                        I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
                        Originally posted by Z28ISGR8
                        WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
                        Originally posted by Darren
                        I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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                        • #27
                          If they do make a new Chevelle they BETTER NOT make it a 4-door.

                          1978 Pontiac Firebird Formula W66
                          350 Small Block Chevy Bored .030 Over (355)

                          GM Performance Parts Vortec Heads
                          Holley 650cfm Double Pumper
                          Edelbrock Performer-Plus Cam
                          Edelbrock Vortec Performer RPM
                          Hedman Hedders 1-5/8" Long Tubes
                          2-1/2" Exhaust With "H" Pipe & Hooker Aero Chamber Mufflers
                          TH350 With B&M Transpak Shift Kit & 2400rpm Stall B&M Tork Master Converter

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                          • #28
                            The Chevelle was going to be the 4 door to go up against the Charger. This has been a rumor for over a year, I remember talking about it way before the NAIAS '06.
                            - Brian Meissen
                            Owner, MiFBody.com
                            Administrator, LTxTech.com


                            1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
                            2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"
                            Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
                            June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
                            The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI

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                            • #29
                              The Charger is gay. There's no need for 4 doors on a muscle car

                              1978 Pontiac Firebird Formula W66
                              350 Small Block Chevy Bored .030 Over (355)

                              GM Performance Parts Vortec Heads
                              Holley 650cfm Double Pumper
                              Edelbrock Performer-Plus Cam
                              Edelbrock Vortec Performer RPM
                              Hedman Hedders 1-5/8" Long Tubes
                              2-1/2" Exhaust With "H" Pipe & Hooker Aero Chamber Mufflers
                              TH350 With B&M Transpak Shift Kit & 2400rpm Stall B&M Tork Master Converter

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by MrMojoRisin681
                                The Charger is gay. There's no need for 4 doors on a muscle car
                                I dunno...the SRT Charger is pretty hot.
                                Originally posted by Redd8407
                                I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
                                Originally posted by Z28ISGR8
                                WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
                                Originally posted by Darren
                                I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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