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Hey, I wasnt being mean to anyone. Just speaking my mind. I dont care if they speak it back. Its good clean fun.
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Originally posted by WMCC Gary View PostWhich would you prefer
or
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wow.. this spiraled out of control.... I just wanted to show off my
panel??? How does that make you feel Ang? Aparently, according to this thread, it adds 20 hp.... All for about tree fitty

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Nope, Not mad at anyone.
was in response to you saying I couldn't shut you up.Originally posted by WMCC GARYWhich would you prefer
or
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Western Michigan Camaro Club ~ President
1987 Camaro IROC-Z Pearl White & Black w/ Red Pearl, 355 TPI, A4, 3:42, AirRide,"GOMARO"2017 Silverado Double Cab Z71 Pepperdust Metallic, 5.3, A6, 3:42, "SASYZ71"WMCC Website www.wmcamaro.org
2005 Pontiac Grand Prix GT White, 3800
"A government big enough to give you everything you want,
is strong enough to take everything you have." — Thomas Jefferson
"Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who
are willing to work and give to those who would not." — Thomas Jefferson

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I'm with you Angie! I don't like the "wanna-be's" and "copy cats" either, but there is nothing that can be done. I'll bet there are people that have added the "Berger Panel" to their Camaros that have no idea where the "Berger Panel" even came from or have any idea about the series of Camaros that Berger/GMMG built. It looked good to them (and it does look good) and wanted that look on their Camaro, too.
It's really no different than all the fake 1st Gen Z28's, Yenko's and such you see at car shows all the time. They are after a certain look, and if you don't have the real thing, Then just do a "copy".
When Gary and I were passing out Berger Chevrolet - All Chevy Show fliers on Sunday at Mendon, we came across a "Yenko" Nova. Now I realize that Yenko built some Nova's called a Yenko Deuce, which had (the old style) LT-1's installed, but this Nova had the Camaro Yenko sYc stripes and a big block installed. It was actually pretty funny.
But, in the end, WE know there are only 36 Hot Rod Magazine Edition Camaros built, and that there is more to them than just a black tail light panel and a hockey stick stripe. And that's good enough for me.RIP Doug,You will always be remembered
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2002 Trail Blazer LTZ
2003 Honda VFR 800i Interceptor
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Originally posted by WMCC Doug View PostI'll bet there are people that have added the "Berger Panel" to their Camaros that have no idea where the "Berger Panel" even came from or have any idea about the series of Camaros that Berger/GMMG built. It looked good to them (and it does look good) and wanted that look on their Camaro, too.
But, in the end, WE know there are only 36 Hot Rod Magazine Edition Camaros built, and that there is more to them than just a black tail light panel and a hockey stick stripe. And that's good enough for me.
I understand where the Berger/GMMG cars came from and greatly respect their heritage... That is why I've added part of the aesthetic quality to my vehicle. I'm in no way claiming to have repopped a HRME car, nor would I want to... (we discussed my distain for billet in the nose earlier). In the end, my car is a 35th anniversary Z28 with a black sail panel and export lamps and nothing more. However, in all honesty, I think ya'll paid too much for an aesthetic package/weak perf package with goofy upholstery. They are fantastic unique Camaros but in the end, nobody cares but other Camaro people...

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"Owning a 9 second import is like coming out of the closet. At first you surprise everyone, but in the end you're still gay!"
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Everybody is entitled to an opinion, and a person can do what ever they want to thier car its thiers after all. So lets all play nice and quite complaining. Its not going to solve or change anything.
Nobody asked for a response from the peanut gallery.Originally posted by Orange Terror View PostIn person I'll put my money on Angie shutting you up

Last edited by WMCC Gary; May 8th, 2008, 09:02 AM.Western Michigan Camaro Club ~ President
1987 Camaro IROC-Z Pearl White & Black w/ Red Pearl, 355 TPI, A4, 3:42, AirRide,"GOMARO"2017 Silverado Double Cab Z71 Pepperdust Metallic, 5.3, A6, 3:42, "SASYZ71"WMCC Website www.wmcamaro.org
2005 Pontiac Grand Prix GT White, 3800
"A government big enough to give you everything you want,
is strong enough to take everything you have." — Thomas Jefferson
"Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who
are willing to work and give to those who would not." — Thomas Jefferson

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Patrick, you are not the first, or the last person to add a "Berger Panel" to their Camaro. And of course, most people on MiFbody are going to know about the Berger Camaros, I was not singling you out, it was a general statement about the "Berger Panels" added to Camaros all over the country.Originally posted by 02redz28 View PostI understand where the Berger/GMMG cars came from and greatly respect their heritage... That is why I've added part of the aesthetic quality to my vehicle.
There's no argument here Gary. Not trying to prove anything, either. Just voicing my opinion and observations in a civil and calm discussion.RIP Doug,You will always be remembered
3/3/53 ~ 12/22/10
Western Michigan Camaro Club - President
2002 Hot Rod Magazine Ltd. Ed. by Berger
1985 Camaro IROC-Z
1974 Camaro Type LT / Z28
2002 Trail Blazer LTZ
2003 Honda VFR 800i Interceptor
1996 Camaro SS (Sold
)
www.wmcamaro.org
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GEEZ whats everyone so worked up about? Just poking fun! Hey, whats this about "GOOFY" interior? And there is NO way Gary can shut me up! Dave has been trying for 27 years and hasnt been able to yet!!
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Originally posted by wmccrxpower View PostJust poking fun! Hey, whats this about "GOOFY" interior? And there is NO way Gary can shut me up! Dave has been trying for 27 years and hasnt been able to yet!!

Who's worked up? Your Berger cars dont have the plaid cloth inlays? Or is that only the Dick Harrell? I guess I've never seen a Hot Rod Ed. in person.
I swear there was a special edition car with seats paying homage to these 69 seats...
http://www.musclecarworks.com/gmprojects/69CamCoupe/images/large/Final%2082%20Lg.JPGLast edited by 02redz28; May 8th, 2008, 10:09 AM.
"ANY car can be an SS but ONLY a Camaro can be a Z28!" Scott S.
"Owning a 9 second import is like coming out of the closet. At first you surprise everyone, but in the end you're still gay!"
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For info purposes, here is a link to GMMG:
http://www.gmmginc.net/
Unfortunately, there is no photo of the Hot Rod interior. But, it's basically black leather with red leather inserts in the seats and the Hot Rod Magazine Camaro logo embroidered in the head rest.RIP Doug,You will always be remembered
3/3/53 ~ 12/22/10
Western Michigan Camaro Club - President
2002 Hot Rod Magazine Ltd. Ed. by Berger
1985 Camaro IROC-Z
1974 Camaro Type LT / Z28
2002 Trail Blazer LTZ
2003 Honda VFR 800i Interceptor
1996 Camaro SS (Sold
)
www.wmcamaro.org
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