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  • #46
    my buddy that has built some old 8.5 10 bolts says he welds a leaf spring to the top of the axle over the pumpkin to both tubes. He was trying to talk me into welding the tubes, instaling the gears, doing the leaf spring, and installing the girdle cover my buddy has to sell me for $75
    1999 z28 Bright Blue Metallic 1 of 10
    1999 z28 Hugger Orange RS 1 of >309 (Sold)
    1997 z28 White 6 speed Heads and Cam. (Sold)
    1994 z28 PPM auto Cam only (Sold)
    1984 sport coupe red 4 cyl (Sold)

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    • #47
      Yep, but you need to find a damn good welder to do that. Everything needs to be preheated prior to welding and the proper filler rod must be used, and the housing should be wrapped with insulation during cool down. This will insure a proper weld with no cracking. I have my father do all that, he was Army trained to weld tank armor.

      The TA cover will preload the caps, not much...maybe 5 ft-lbs if I remember right, but any bit helps. I think mine added a half quart of capacity if I remember right
      Last edited by hoogiesngrinderz; November 18th, 2013, 11:30 PM.

      1998 Camaro Z28 - Bright Red, 6.0 TR224, 4l60e, 3.42 Eaton TrueTrac
      1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible - 355 big tube TPI, WC T5, 3.42 Zexel Torsen, CTS-V/C4 brakes
      1955 Bel Air 2 Door Post - 357 TPI, Muncie M20, 4 wheel disc

      2006 Saab 9-7x 5.3i Daily Driver

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      • #48
        Also, the gusset setup like Joel has isn't a bad idea.


        You need to draw a line in the sand. How much is too much for a built 10 bolt?

        1998 Camaro Z28 - Bright Red, 6.0 TR224, 4l60e, 3.42 Eaton TrueTrac
        1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible - 355 big tube TPI, WC T5, 3.42 Zexel Torsen, CTS-V/C4 brakes
        1955 Bel Air 2 Door Post - 357 TPI, Muncie M20, 4 wheel disc

        2006 Saab 9-7x 5.3i Daily Driver

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        • #49
          Originally posted by hoogiesngrinderz View Post
          Also, the gusset setup like Joel has isn't a bad idea.


          You need to draw a line in the sand. How much is too much for a built 10 bolt?
          Thats what im thinking to is all this worth it for a 10 bolt is ther even the slightest chance doing any of this that it will hold even half as long as any of the aftermarket axle swaps
          1999 z28 Bright Blue Metallic 1 of 10
          1999 z28 Hugger Orange RS 1 of >309 (Sold)
          1997 z28 White 6 speed Heads and Cam. (Sold)
          1994 z28 PPM auto Cam only (Sold)
          1984 sport coupe red 4 cyl (Sold)

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          • #50
            My cars will see little (if any) strip sessions and nothing more than 275 street tire. I'd likely get the boot if I took them down the 1/4

            I do plan auto-x though. Don't need a 9" or 12 bolt for that.

            1998 Camaro Z28 - Bright Red, 6.0 TR224, 4l60e, 3.42 Eaton TrueTrac
            1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible - 355 big tube TPI, WC T5, 3.42 Zexel Torsen, CTS-V/C4 brakes
            1955 Bel Air 2 Door Post - 357 TPI, Muncie M20, 4 wheel disc

            2006 Saab 9-7x 5.3i Daily Driver

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            • #51
              Originally posted by white97z28 View Post
              my buddy that has built some old 8.5 10 bolts says he welds a leaf spring to the top of the axle over the pumpkin to both tubes. He was trying to talk me into welding the tubes, instaling the gears, doing the leaf spring, and installing the girdle cover my buddy has to sell me for $75
              A gusset over the top is more for payload reinforcement than delivering power which is around the back. Top/bottom gussets are common for off road or vehicles that are going to be jumping railroad tracks.

              Also thats not my setup above, just one i grabbed from the interwebs.

              For me personally a 9" isnt necessary. Im only tempted because i want 4.10s... My posi is getting tired, driveshaft is out of balance, how much money do i want to invest in a tired horse? But right now a house is more important than a 9"
              -Joel
              1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
              1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


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              • #52
                Looks good nick!

                00 Trans Am: Forged 370ci iron block, LS3 heads and intake, ls3 polluter cam, fast 92mm throttle body, bbk's long tubes, yank 4k stall, Viking front coil overs, 3 ways adjustable rear shocks
                Bolt ons/Stall:12.2 @108 with a 1.6 60ft on dr's
                04 R6: k&n, olson shorty slip on, Vortex sprockets -1/+2

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                • #53
                  Having driven 4.10's for a while, I would never have them again. The shift points don't seem natural and for the kind of driving I do, they were a pain in the ass. First gear is 100% useless when you actually what to go anywhere, and they draw more attention to your car since your shifting all the time.

                  3.42's are perfect, 3.73 would probably be better but I have never driven with those.
                  1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 - 6 Speed

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by nascarnate326 View Post
                    Having driven 4.10's for a while, I would never have them again. The shift points don't seem natural and for the kind of driving I do, they were a pain in the ass. First gear is 100% useless when you actually what to go anywhere, and they draw more attention to your car since your shifting all the time.

                    3.42's are perfect, 3.73 would probably be better but I have never driven with those.
                    I really need to drive a car that has them so i can get a feel for what its like. 3.73 or 3.90 might be better but im confident 3.42s are less than optimal for my engine. My power band is shifted a good 1000 rpm of what it was stock (both down low and up top) so in all conditions it would be better to be turning a little more RPM. 6th is practicallly useless until 75 mph... Any less than that isnt enough umph to accelerate.
                    Last edited by JoeliusZ28; November 19th, 2013, 11:16 AM.
                    -Joel
                    1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                    1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


                    WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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                    • #55
                      Glad to see you got it running! Had the same thing happen to a water pump, it let loose at Milan 3/4 of the way down the track. Almost lost it!
                      sigpicJust a slow 400 plus RWHP LT1.....428/370 NA

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by JoeliusZ28 View Post
                        I really need to drive a car that has them so i can get a feel for what its like. 3.73 or 3.90 might be better but im confident 3.42s are less than optimal for my engine. My power band is shifted a good 1000 rpm of what it was stock (both down low and up top) so in all conditions it would be better to be turning a little more RPM. 6th is practicallly useless until 75 mph... Any less than that isnt enough umph to accelerate.
                        6th gear is really just for mpg. I use anytime 60 and over. If I had 3.42 I could do 55 and 6th.
                        1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 - 6 Speed

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by nascarnate326 View Post
                          6th gear is really just for mpg. I use anytime 60 and over. If I had 3.42 I could do 55 and 6th.
                          Put a bigger cam in your car and youll understand. My car is not happy in 6th gear at 60mph. It can maintain speed and accelerate maybe at a snails pace but you can feel it is not happy about it. When it was stock the car loved cruising at 1500 rpm. Now it wants 2000-2200.
                          Last edited by JoeliusZ28; November 20th, 2013, 09:31 AM.
                          -Joel
                          1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                          1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


                          WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by FASHOOTER View Post
                            Glad to see you got it running! Had the same thing happen to a water pump, it let loose at Milan 3/4 of the way down the track. Almost lost it!
                            Holy Crap thats not good man!

                            Originally posted by JoeliusZ28 View Post
                            Put a bigger cam in your car and youll understand. My car is not happy in 6th gear at 60mph. It can maintain speed and accelerate maybe at a snails pace but you can feel it is not happy about it. When it was stock the car loved cruising at 1500 rpm. Now it wants 2000-2200.
                            Agreed there. My car doesn't like 6th gear at all any speed under 60mph. It doesn't like trying to cruise under 2k rpms
                            1999 z28 Bright Blue Metallic 1 of 10
                            1999 z28 Hugger Orange RS 1 of >309 (Sold)
                            1997 z28 White 6 speed Heads and Cam. (Sold)
                            1994 z28 PPM auto Cam only (Sold)
                            1984 sport coupe red 4 cyl (Sold)

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                            • #59
                              Yeah i can manage slower speeds but it doesnt like it. I took a pic the other day... 77mph is where my car becomes "happy" in 6th. 2k on the factory tach, 1800 on the digital.

                              -Joel
                              1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                              1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


                              WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by JoeliusZ28 View Post
                                Yeah i can manage slower speeds but it doesnt like it. I took a pic the other day... 77mph is where my car becomes "happy" in 6th. 2k on the factory tach, 1800 on the digital.

                                Does this pic show that the factory tach is showing 2k and your digital one is 1815? Is the factory one really that un-acurate?
                                1999 z28 Bright Blue Metallic 1 of 10
                                1999 z28 Hugger Orange RS 1 of >309 (Sold)
                                1997 z28 White 6 speed Heads and Cam. (Sold)
                                1994 z28 PPM auto Cam only (Sold)
                                1984 sport coupe red 4 cyl (Sold)

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