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  • [Project] EVI's New Project - 2010 Camaro SS

    Stan Boyd @ EVI is doing a new project.

    Stan's post on Motown Muscle about the project.
    http://motownmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108278

    The project website link
    http://www.engineeredvictories.com/fugitive/

    Last edited by Turbo91Bird; July 30th, 2009, 12:30 PM.


    '91 Firebird - LC2 3.8, 6776S Turbo, Alkycontrol, S60 Rear, ProBuilt 700

  • #2
    Cool but ... another supercharger?
    - Brian Meissen
    Owner, MiFBody.com
    Administrator, LTxTech.com


    1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
    2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"
    Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
    June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
    The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI

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    • #3
      Originally posted by meissen View Post
      Cool but ... another supercharger?
      Another?


      '91 Firebird - LC2 3.8, 6776S Turbo, Alkycontrol, S60 Rear, ProBuilt 700

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      • #4
        Yeah... there's like 25 companies that are putting that same supercharger on the car. Personally, I'd like to start seeing some N/A HP combos...


        Just a few of the combos out there - this is only 5 minutes worth of browsing the Camaro5 news archives...
        Hennessey HPE700 Camaro - Supercharged LS9
        Hennessey HPE650 Camaro - Magnuson Supercharger
        Hennessey HPE600 Camaro - Magnuson Supercharger
        Ligenfelter Camaro - Magnuson Supercharger
        Fesler Moss Competition Camaro - Magnuson Supercharger
        SLP ZL575 Camaro - 2300 Series TVS H.O. Supercharger (which looks identical to the Magnuson..)
        ProCharger's Supercharger for the Camaro
        Nickey Camaro - Single or Twin Turbo
        Fastlane Stage 4: ZL1 Camaro - Single Turbo
        Vector Motorsports package - Stage 2 Camshaft and tuning


        Don't get me wrong - it's cool that all these companies are able to slap the same supercharger on the same engine, but let's see something new?
        Last edited by meissen; July 30th, 2009, 01:59 PM.
        - Brian Meissen
        Owner, MiFBody.com
        Administrator, LTxTech.com


        1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
        2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"
        Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
        June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
        The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI

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        • #5
          Ahhh, I see what you mean.

          There might be some changes down the road I'm sure. We'll see what happens.


          '91 Firebird - LC2 3.8, 6776S Turbo, Alkycontrol, S60 Rear, ProBuilt 700

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          • #6
            In the end, all the options are cool - just seems like everyone automatically is going F/I. Vector Motorsports and only one or two others seem to be staying true to offering packages that are N/A. The Supercharged packages are sweet, no doubt, though. Just seems like the natural progression would have been to see tons of companies doing cams, bolt on goodies, etc, and then eventually getting F/I... seems like they jumped to the most extreme packages that a majority of the public can't afford first.
            - Brian Meissen
            Owner, MiFBody.com
            Administrator, LTxTech.com


            1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
            2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"
            Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
            June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
            The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI

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            • #7
              What's wrong with a supercharger?

              Honestly - there's a reason they use them. I mean, shit - I just got over a 100HP increase for one collective modification.
              Gone but not forgotten: 1986 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z

              "You shall ride eternal. Shiny and chrome."

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              • #8
                Yeah, but how many people are going to go buy a new Camaro and slap a supercharger package on it?
                - Brian Meissen
                Owner, MiFBody.com
                Administrator, LTxTech.com


                1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
                2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"
                Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
                June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
                The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by meissen View Post
                  In the end, all the options are cool - just seems like everyone automatically is going F/I. Vector Motorsports and only one or two others seem to be staying true to offering packages that are N/A. The Supercharged packages are sweet, no doubt, though. Just seems like the natural progression would have been to see tons of companies doing cams, bolt on goodies, etc, and then eventually getting F/I... seems like they jumped to the most extreme packages that a majority of the public can't afford first.
                  I would think the main reason is being price. Add two easy modifications to the car and make over 550+ hp. Head/Cam package might be a step later on, once perfected. Remember, this is something that has to go back to the dealership to sell to consumers.


                  '91 Firebird - LC2 3.8, 6776S Turbo, Alkycontrol, S60 Rear, ProBuilt 700

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by meissen View Post
                    Yeah, but how many people are going to go buy a new Camaro and slap a supercharger package on it?
                    They'd buy one of these.

                    But it looks to be a rather easy mod.
                    Gone but not forgotten: 1986 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z

                    "You shall ride eternal. Shiny and chrome."

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                    • #11
                      heads and cam would not be good.
                      the packages/car are gonna be sold at the dealer. Which means the car must be emissions legal. most supercharger kits are emissions legal.
                      For a cam change to have any real gain it would not pass emissions

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 1BADAIR View Post
                        heads and cam would not be good.
                        the packages/car are gonna be sold at the dealer. Which means the car must be emissions legal. most supercharger kits are emissions legal.
                        For a cam change to have any real gain it would not pass emissions
                        Another good point.

                        Both of these parts are emission legal


                        '91 Firebird - LC2 3.8, 6776S Turbo, Alkycontrol, S60 Rear, ProBuilt 700

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                        • #13
                          Nice to see a local company doing this!
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                          1994 Camaro Z28 83K M6, CAI, AFR 190cc, 11.6:1, Hooker headers, Hooker ORY, Mangnaflow exhaust, AI 230/238, 1.6 RR, B&M Short throw, Hays clutch, 4.10 gear.

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                          Originally Posted by 1BADAIR
                          manuals should be launched off the limiter and the throttle shouldn't leave the floor til 10 feet after the finish line

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 1BADAIR View Post
                            heads and cam would not be good.
                            the packages/car are gonna be sold at the dealer. Which means the car must be emissions legal. most supercharger kits are emissions legal.
                            For a cam change to have any real gain it would not pass emissions
                            That's exactly correct. Dealerships are restricted by the same government regulations at the manufacturers. If they change internal engine components, then they need to get the package re-certified with the EPA. A VERY expensive proposition.

                            If a dealership violated some emissions regulation they would be subject to a massive fine and possibly even loose their franchise. I'm guessing most dealerships are not willing to take that chance.

                            So, sorry if "all these superchargers" are boring you, Brian, but they make the most sense and provide the best bang for the buck.
                            Last edited by WMCC Doug; July 30th, 2009, 10:59 PM.
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                            1985 Camaro IROC-Z
                            1974 Camaro Type LT / Z28
                            2002 Trail Blazer LTZ
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                            • #15
                              Little update on this today.

                              Results are in for the American Racing headers!

                              Started bone stock at - 380hp / 394tq

                              After some dyno tuning - 405hp / 426tq

                              Now after the American Racing headers we pushed out 427hp / 453tq.

                              Some video of the dyno run.

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l148wff-SXM

                              Pictures of the install.





                              So far I'm pretty impressed. Here is the dyno sheet from the last pull.



                              Car is responding nicely to these modifications. I look forward to getting this Magnuson supercharger running and see what it puts down after that. Stay tuned.

                              Also, more details about the install and more at the site. Thanks again to 91Bird305 for the site work.

                              http://www.engineeredvictories.com/Fugitive/


                              '91 Firebird - LC2 3.8, 6776S Turbo, Alkycontrol, S60 Rear, ProBuilt 700

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