question about wax

[SS4Matt]

i just get a can of either "topaz" or "flint glaze" by a company called Ardex. you can only get their stuff from the suppliers. about $7 for a tin of it, lasts me a month or 2 (depending on how many i use it to wax customer cars) but i usually wax my car about 3 or 4 times a week.

anyways, the stuff i get is inexpensive, and it's better than anything else i've ever used before (and working at a detail shop, i've used a fair number of products and brands)

[JoeliusZ28]

that topaz stuff is alright, i use it at work. Its good for a quick job, but IMO i never feel like im doing everything i can for a car when i use it... it just kinda covers stuff temporarily. (not scratches, but dirt and tar)

i didnt read the huge paragraphs about zaino, but i can vouch for its durability. I put 4 coats on my dads truck back in august, and it JUST NOW needs to be redone, but however is still shinier than any other truck of its year. The stuff definitely lasts, but it doesnt repel dust and i dont think it protects better than anything else either. I love zaino to death, but im not close minded at all. I use nanowax on my daily driver and very similar results with it for a lot less.

brian, you are making comparisons on a car that gets quick detailed constantly. If you do zaino on a random car and then drive it unmaintenanced all through the winter, you would definitely be impressed with how much abuse it takes when compared against others.

btw, i have another coat curing on my car right now

[93formulalt1]

I think they are all pretty much the same, between Zaino and Mequiars and Mothers and stuff. . . Brian always had a high opinion of Zaino, and his car looked amazing, but that was mostly due to the awesome paint quality and the amount of upkeep he always doest ot keep it sleazy. . . I mean shiny. . . lol I use a combination of Mother's Claybar, Mequiars 3 step system, and a good polish and wax after every wash. Looking to claybar it again before the meet and greet, last claybar was in March. My car's paint isn't very great right now, but it will be repainted and the body will be pristine before I go back to school in the fall semester. No go on the Zaino after all I have heard from Brian and the other guys on here. I think my current system is going to work fine after a fresh Tangerine & Black paintjob. . . .

[superman4evr]

Theres a detailer here in Wyoming off of 131. I am going to go see
him after get my car cleaned up. He sells a small variety of wax and such. I'm going to ask him, if he thinks I can get better shine than what I have. We shall see what he says.

[93formulalt1]

I think I'm gonna try out the Meguiar's Gold Class polish/wax system, I've heard that it's the best product we carry at my work.

[meissen]

he just tells me to wash and use the NXT and i've never got anything close to the shine i get with the zaino or the texture.

Not trying to argue, just a healthy discussion on the topic. If you took a regular ordinary car and just washed it and then polished with Zaino, I'm sure the shine wouldn't be as good, either. It's all about the step process, not the final product you use. If you just wash and then apply, it'll look decent but won't look -as good- as it could with a full step process.. wash, claybar, wash, polish, wax (or in zaino's case, wash, claybar, wash, polish, QD, polish, QD, etc).


There's nothing done to that paint except the right angle, the right lighting, and a clean surface.. it was freshly claybarred, then washed. no polish, no waxes, no toppers.

[Superman09]

yea i totally agree with you, i just like the results i get from zaino, ease of application, and the texture finish it gives, feels like ice, and the smell of course, lol. Im very open minded and totally agree with you on many, almost all points, i just prefer the zaino and its what i prefer, and as far as wax's go, its all preference.

[MattODoom]

I use meguiars deep crystal. Honestly this was the first time ive ever done anything besides a wax. I did the cleaner, polish + wax. I dont really see that much difference then just having it waxed. But my car is black and the paint is pretty glossy to begin with.

[93formulalt1]

That's what Ben and I use. I need to buy my own and quit leeching off of him . . . lol I still love your car, Matt. . . I want it badly. lol There aren't really many car care products out there that won't make a dark colored car look great, but making a lighter colored car look good is another thing altogether. . . .

[meissen]

yea i totally agree with you, i just like the results i get from zaino, ease of application, and the texture finish it gives, feels like ice, and the smell of course, lol. Im very open minded and totally agree with you on many, almost all points, i just prefer the zaino and its what i prefer, and as far as wax's go, its all preference.

Agreed, it's definitely all a matter of preference. That said, to anyone reading this, don't NOT try Zaino just because of what I said. If you want to try it, try it, you might like it best out of all the other products.

[93formulalt1]

IDK, I think I'm pretty impressed with what I have been using . . . Paint is probably gonna happen before the meet and greet too. . . SHHH. . . I want it to be a surprise as to the color I chose. . .

[MrMojoRisin681]

I use Meguiars Cleaner Wax paste, the one that has the cleaner/polish/wax all together instead of seperately. I wanted the 3 step but couldn't find it for a decent price w/o driving more than I wanted to. It shines pretty decent, and when it gets dusty I use a California duster on it. My paintjob could prolly use a clay baring.

[superman4evr]

I went today and talked to that detailer.
I showed him my car. He said the only way I could possibly get more shine out of it, is have it color sanded and detailed, He showed me some orange peel here and their that wouldn't normally come out. I told him some of the things I tried and he told me to stick with what I had. His opinion was Zaino wouldn't get my t/a any better than what I have. So, I guess I will stick with my system.

[JoeliusZ28]

Not trying to argue, just a healthy discussion on the topic. If you took a regular ordinary car and just washed it and then polished with Zaino, I'm sure the shine wouldn't be as good, either. It's all about the step process, not the final product you use. If you just wash and then apply, it'll look decent but won't look -as good- as it could with a full step process.. wash, claybar, wash, polish, wax (or in zaino's case, wash, claybar, wash, polish, QD, polish, QD, etc).


There's nothing done to that paint except the right angle, the right lighting, and a clean surface.. it was freshly claybarred, then washed. no polish, no waxes, no toppers.

hey remember when you showed me that picture and asked if that looked like wax or bare paint and i got it right? hehe.

[meissen]

haha yeah you may see bare paint, I don't know how I think you were just guessing, but that's one damn good reflection