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  • Best Subframe Connectors? Midwest?

    Hey all -

    While the car is in the shop, I think I'd like to get a set of SFC's on it - it'll also help to ensure that everything is lined up properly. I am really considering the Midwest SFC's - seem to be a great product, at a great price ($160 shipped)...even if they charge me $100 to weld them on, it'll be the same or less than the cost of a set of bolt-ins.

    Is there an alternative you'd recommend over the midwest pieces? One point is - I don't want some hideously visible pieces when the car is on the ground. I'd like for them to be as discrete as possible, which I *think* the midwest pieces would be.

    Thanks!
    2000 SS Convertible #1414 - Light Pewter 6 Speed

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    Call MWC and make sure they have them in stock. If not look at other options.
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    • #3
      I'll confirm that they have them if they are the best - even if not, I have a few week window still before they'd be putting them in. They haven't even torn the car apart yet.
      2000 SS Convertible #1414 - Light Pewter 6 Speed

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      • #4
        Make sure you order ones for a convert they are a little diferent. I had a set of bmr subframe conct. on mine round weld on ones good and heavy not like the flimsy ones, realy like mine would do them again.

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        • #5
          mwc makes a hell of a product I recommend them highly.
          Doing less with more


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          • #6
            I have UMI Performance's 2-point SFC's, but would have used their 3-points had they been available back then. I seriously doubt Midwest would have anything to fit the vert, but it doesn't hurt to ask. If you come up with goose-eggs, definitely buy the UMI 3-points. There are only like two manufacturers for the 2-points, but the 3's are vastly superior, and UMI is the only game in town (unless you can scare up a set of the new old stock SLP units). You can get the UMI's in weld-in or bolt-in.

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            • #7
              3 points are a sales pitch IMO. Mounting the 3rd point the the flimsy sheet metal tunnel brace isn't going to do a damn thing IMO.

              They MIGHT be a little stiffer if used with a tunnel mount TQ arm but I still wouldn't spend the extra money.


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              • #8
                Originally posted by c0ncEpT View Post
                3 points are a sales pitch IMO. Mounting the 3rd point the the flimsy sheet metal tunnel brace isn't going to do a damn thing IMO.

                They MIGHT be a little stiffer if used with a tunnel mount TQ arm but I still wouldn't spend the extra money.
                Its not just the mounting points that make a 3 pt design stronger. It triangulates the tube that runs along the the rocker.

                I have installed UMI 3 pts and 2 pts and I thought they fit well.

                But IMO any subframe connectors are better than no subframe connectors.

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                • #9
                  The UMI 3 pts just came out about 6 months ago. They look pretty good. I found an NOS set of the SLP 3 pt bars for my car.
                  When in doubt, Whip it out !

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                  • #10
                    Founders are pretty inexpensive. Havent heard anything bad about them yet.
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                    • #11
                      Def prefer the MWC....completes the connection between frt and rear subframes instead of tying into the LCA.
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                      • #12
                        I like my 3pts.
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                        • #13
                          Midwest confirmed that they have them in stock and that they do fit convertibles (or, they have a vert version)

                          I'll talk to Autometric about their install cost (and if they are willing).
                          2000 SS Convertible #1414 - Light Pewter 6 Speed

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Atrus View Post
                            Midwest confirmed that they have them in stock.
                            Reeeeeeeealllllly.......?

                            Hmmmmm.......mine heads to a shop next week. Thinkin while it's on a lift.....
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                            • #15
                              Whether they are bolted in or welded in, the car MUST be sitting on a flat surface with all of the weight on the tires. Only kind of lift you can use is a drive on type. And don't let anybody tell you otherwise. Period.
                              When in doubt, Whip it out !

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