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    Found this on South Side Street Cars and thought I would share

    http://www.southsidestreetcars.org/s...p?topic=6501.0



    VicePresident of West Michigan Firebird Club
    A.K.A The Maverick
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    93 TA Currently Under Construction AGAIN
    2007 2500 Chevy Silverado Crew Cab w/ 6.0L & 3.73's

  • #2
    Very interesting, and 10 degrees advanced... wow 8-O

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    • #3
      kyle u gonna come and degree my cam rite?
      The Original




      Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar


      Can you argue that it's "revolutionary"? Perhaps. Just because it's "new" and "different" doesn't mean it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

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      • #4
        I saw this thread and thought...there are people out there that DON'T degree their cam?



        I guess there are...
        Originally posted by Redd8407
        I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
        Originally posted by Z28ISGR8
        WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
        Originally posted by Darren
        I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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        • #5
          We didn't degree my cam - aside from Kyle I've never heard that it's necessary to do on an LT1.
          - Brian Meissen
          Owner, MiFBody.com
          Administrator, LTxTech.com


          1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
          2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"
          Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
          June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
          The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bigjon88 View Post
            kyle u gonna come and degree my cam rite?
            Do you have it in???

            I'm going to be headed to Nashville, Mi this week to pick up a boat that my wife owns

            How far from there are ya??

            Hey B, can you put an "r" in front of the "you" in my title?
            I missed it



            VicePresident of West Michigan Firebird Club
            A.K.A The Maverick
            http://www.cardomain.com/ride/660128/1
            93 TA Currently Under Construction AGAIN
            2007 2500 Chevy Silverado Crew Cab w/ 6.0L & 3.73's

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            • #7
              - Brian Meissen
              Owner, MiFBody.com
              Administrator, LTxTech.com


              1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
              2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"
              Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
              June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
              The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI

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              • #8
                Thanks



                VicePresident of West Michigan Firebird Club
                A.K.A The Maverick
                http://www.cardomain.com/ride/660128/1
                93 TA Currently Under Construction AGAIN
                2007 2500 Chevy Silverado Crew Cab w/ 6.0L & 3.73's

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                • #9
                  not ready yet but when i am we will talk i will even come to u
                  The Original




                  Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar


                  Can you argue that it's "revolutionary"? Perhaps. Just because it's "new" and "different" doesn't mean it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

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                  • #10
                    Sounds good Jon
                    Keep me posted



                    VicePresident of West Michigan Firebird Club
                    A.K.A The Maverick
                    http://www.cardomain.com/ride/660128/1
                    93 TA Currently Under Construction AGAIN
                    2007 2500 Chevy Silverado Crew Cab w/ 6.0L & 3.73's

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                    • #11
                      I dont believe there's much to degree on a Lt1. You set it at 0 and the computer does the rest.

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                      • #12
                        I dont understand how degreeing is even beneficial since its the cam itself that is usually off due to manufacturer specs. (meaning cam lobes in relation to the dowel pin). a degree wheel on the end of the cam isnt going to tell you anymore than the dowel pin/dot is going to tell you, other than in a more accurate fashion If there was a tool that measured when the valves were opening, and compared that to when they are supposed to, I could see that being useful, or at least an accurate way of telling you how screwed up your car is

                        maybe older motors are different? Even if my cam was "off" theres nothing id be able to do about it other than install it a tooth off which 9 times out of 10 would be way more inaccurate than what it was in the first place. You'd need a custom made timing set to fix it correctly, which ive never heard of anyone doing.

                        Ive probably done 6 cam swaps now and ive never degreed a cam. But everything i work on is LTx or LSx, and "Dot to dot" on the timing set has worked just fine.

                        I have the impression it is a dated issue the way i hear old hot rodders talk about it all the time - perhaps the vast array of timing sets that could be used on a large variety of engines. ive never seen or heard of any problems with cams being off on LT or LS engines which use pretty standardized parts. Ive never had a problem achieving dot-to-dot.

                        Chad, the computer wouldnt be able to compensate for the cam being off other than just learning how it will run best with whatever it is has. its locked in place with a chain and controls physical airflow.
                        Last edited by JoeliusZ28; July 6th, 2009, 07:03 AM.
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                        1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
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                        • #13
                          You NEED an adjustable timing set to degree a cam properly. The best advice I would give on the subject is have someone cam doctor your camshaft before its installed to make sure it was grouned properly, then throw it in dot to dot and be done.In reality the only thing your doing by degreeing the cam is setting the power band further up or down the rpms, your not gonna fix a mistake in the grind.
                          Doing less with more


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                          • #14
                            Jeff is right you NEED an adjustable timing set to degree a cam.

                            Degreeing a cam is more about making sure your cam is going to have the proper valve events like it was spec'ed for.


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                            • #15
                              Right, I meant to say line it up dot to dot and fire it up. Tuning does the rest. We did the 847 cam in my green Z m6 and got the pcm file from pcmforless.com and the car almost runs like stock. I couldn't believe how well it drove. You dont have to rev it too the moon either.

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