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  • So ive been thinking about an engine swap?

    I've been toying with the idea of an engine swap, im not lookin for a crazy drag car but would like somethin along the lines of 350-400 RWHP, i have an lt1 but i feel like it'd take quite a bit of work, so if anyone has an insight itd be appreciated, ive thought about finding an ls1 to build while still driving the car, a 5.3 swap, or next winter pullin the lt1 and rebuilding it. As far as which would b the cheaper and easier route to go please let me know! Id like to keep it N/A and without a bottle too. I'd like to keep my stock trans (t-56) and rear end also, rear end was just rebuilt with 3.73 gear. Would an ls/5.3 bolt to the lt1 t-56?
    1995 Firebird Formula (Sold but not forgotten)

    1998 Camaro Z28 LS1

    2003 Silverado 2500HD CCSB 4x4 6.6 Duramax (DD with minor mods for better "MPG's")

    2004 Trailblazer LT3 i6 4x4 (wifes ride)

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    Um a AI valvetrain will put you over 350whp in a M6 and with their heads you would be looking over 430whp. You can have a valvetrain, heads intake manifold ported by them for under 4000.

    No the LS1 uses a different bell housing also has push (if I recall) and the LT1 has a pull style clutch or its the other way around.

    Budget 350/355 (350 bored .030 over)

    http://www.rpmmachine.com/eagle-stre...mance350.shtml
    Last edited by Fox Slaughter; March 20th, 2012, 09:41 PM.
    Originally posted by Yoshi94
    Mines about an inch bigger than Kyles. I need to get one of those
    Originally posted by ryanwarby01
    Put it this way, if you have a money tree a LT1 is a wood chipper!
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    • #3
      No such thing as budget engine swaps. If you're only looking for 350-400rwhp, I'd just do a heads and cam kit.
      - Brian Meissen
      Owner, MiFBody.com
      Administrator, LTxTech.com


      1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
      2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"
      Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
      June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
      The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI

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      • #4
        Originally posted by meissen View Post
        No such thing as budget engine swaps. If you're only looking for 350-400rwhp, I'd just do a heads and cam kit.


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        • #5
          Originally posted by meissen View Post
          No such thing as budget engine swaps. If you're only looking for 350-400rwhp, I'd just do a heads and cam kit.
          Agreed.

          I was looking into doing this exact swap with almost the same power goals (mine were ~390-400rwhp with a tame idle and RV-like torque) and while you might be able to build a decent budget engine, all the other parts and such will nickle and dime you to death. In the end, as much as I hate to keep dumping money into an LT1, it still makes sense at this point for my goals and budget.

          Hell, you can get 350rwhp in an M6 LT1 car pretty easily with just a cam swap, and even then the cam wouldn't be all that big.

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          • #6
            As much as I love the LS engines, youve already got 8 cly to work with. Id use 'em! Going to be WAY more work to stuff an LS in there than it would be to build the lt1. Heads and cam should make you happy.
            1999 Camaro - 6 liters of fury.....

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            • #7
              Alright thanks guys. I drove it all last summer n now this summer it just doesnt seem as fast/fun haha. Any suggestions on cam/heads? Should i just port stock heads or upgrade them? its got 99k on the clock, would it b worth a full teardown n rebuild or just do top end for now n wait til the bottom end goes? Id like a lopey cam too, its not a daily driver other than nice days so it wouldnt bother me much. But would still like to have the reliabilty factor
              1995 Firebird Formula (Sold but not forgotten)

              1998 Camaro Z28 LS1

              2003 Silverado 2500HD CCSB 4x4 6.6 Duramax (DD with minor mods for better "MPG's")

              2004 Trailblazer LT3 i6 4x4 (wifes ride)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by blacklt1firebird View Post
                Alright thanks guys. I drove it all last summer n now this summer it just doesnt seem as fast/fun haha. Any suggestions on cam/heads? Should i just port stock heads or upgrade them? its got 99k on the clock, would it b worth a full teardown n rebuild or just do top end for now n wait til the bottom end goes? Id like a lopey cam too, its not a daily driver other than nice days so it wouldnt bother me much. But would still like to have the reliabilty factor
                Www.advancedinduction.com
                Originally posted by Yoshi94
                Mines about an inch bigger than Kyles. I need to get one of those
                Originally posted by ryanwarby01
                Put it this way, if you have a money tree a LT1 is a wood chipper!
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                • #9
                  Ive considered a 5.3 LS swap many times, in the end it just doesnt make sense if you already have a LT1.

                  Throw a cam in it, set a safe rev limiter, have fun.
                  1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 - 6 Speed

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                  • #10
                    What I would do - if you're willing to spend the money for a swap - I'd get a heads and cam package from advancedinductions and then also pick up the LS1 pcm conversion kit so you can get rid of the optispark. Then you'd have reliability and power.
                    - Brian Meissen
                    Owner, MiFBody.com
                    Administrator, LTxTech.com


                    1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
                    2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"
                    Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
                    June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
                    The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI

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                    • #11
                      Why not do the LT4 conversion kit from Summit. Manifold, heads, cam all in a package directly from GM ready to go. 425hp factory designed.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TrickyTransAm View Post
                        Why not do the LT4 conversion kit from Summit. Manifold, heads, cam all in a package directly from GM ready to go. 425hp factory designed.
                        The only way that kit will get you 425hp is if you add 100 hp NOS shot with it.
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                        355 LT1 M6. 232/240 LE cam. 21* Trick Flow heads. Fully ported intake. 58mm TPIS tb. 42# SVO Injectors. LS7 Lifters. Moser 9" TrueTrac w/ 4.22 gears. True Duals. UMI Suspension. LS1 brake swap. Dr. Phil tuned 400ish rwhp. Money Pit.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ryanwarby01 View Post
                          The only way that kit will get you 425hp is if you add 100 hp NOS shot with it.
                          425hp isn't that difficult when you think about it. Good flowing heads, high compression, and a cam can get you there without nitrous. 425 at the wheels is a different story.
                          Has someone on here or yourself purchased that kit to debunk it?
                          Last edited by TrickyTransAm; March 27th, 2012, 06:29 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TrickyTransAm View Post
                            425hp isn't that difficult when you think about it. Good flowing heads, high compression, and a cam can get you there without nitrous. 425 at the wheels is a different story.
                            Has someone on here or yourself purchased that kit to debunk it?
                            You can definitley get a h/c/i kit good for 425+ hp, it's just not the LT4 kit. I had that kit on my lt1 for a long time and never dynoed anywhere near 425 crank hp. A stock LT4 was good for 330hp and that kit isn't good for another 100hp on top of that.
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                            355 LT1 M6. 232/240 LE cam. 21* Trick Flow heads. Fully ported intake. 58mm TPIS tb. 42# SVO Injectors. LS7 Lifters. Moser 9" TrueTrac w/ 4.22 gears. True Duals. UMI Suspension. LS1 brake swap. Dr. Phil tuned 400ish rwhp. Money Pit.

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                            • #15
                              Keep the LT1, HCI, get rid of opti. Done. The engine swap is bound to be a nightmare unless you're a serious pro at mechanical work.

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