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  • My Trans Am's gear ratio is insane

    I know this is gonna sound nuts and I dont understand it either, but I recently swapped my wheels/tires from my 90 Bird to my 83 T/A. On the 90 the car had a 3.08 gear and 5 speed trans, it went 80mph at 2000rpm exactly. now with the same EXACT wheels/tires on the 83 T/A w/5 speed trans, it went 80mph at 3200rpm. both cars were in 5th gear.

    I did the math and used the ratio calculation (3.08X3200=9856 divided by 2000= 4.928). Yes I came up with a 4.928 gear ratio. HOW THE HELL IS THAT POSSIBLE. I didnt even know a 10 bolt was capable of a 4.93 gear. WTF?????? Someone please help me here, I am so confused. I know the tachs were both accurate. Do they even make a gear that high?

    In case your wondering the T/A came with 205/70/14's which are 819 reves per mile and 25.4 diameter. The wheels I swapped on are 245/50/16's which are 808 revs per mile, and 25.7 diameter, so the difference is only like 1.2%.

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    I think alot has to do with the possibility of having a different final drive ratio in your gear box. I highly dought you have a 4.928 gear ratio.


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    • #3
      As far as I knew ALL 3rd gens with 5 speeds had the SAME final drive ratio of .73

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      • #4
        at 80mph tires can throw your speedo off 5+ mph easily even if they are only slightly different
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        • #5
          wow that is messed up!!!!!!!!!!!8-O

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          • #6
            Originally posted by hgffrank View Post
            I know this is gonna sound nuts and I dont understand it either, but I recently swapped my wheels/tires from my 90 Bird to my 83 T/A. On the 90 the car had a 3.08 gear and 5 speed trans, it went 80mph at 2000rpm exactly. now with the same EXACT wheels/tires on the 83 T/A w/5 speed trans, it went 80mph at 3200rpm. both cars were in 5th gear.

            I did the math and used the ratio calculation (3.08X3200=9856 divided by 2000= 4.928). Yes I came up with a 4.928 gear ratio. HOW THE HELL IS THAT POSSIBLE. I didnt even know a 10 bolt was capable of a 4.93 gear. WTF?????? Someone please help me here, I am so confused. I know the tachs were both accurate. Do they even make a gear that high?

            In case your wondering the T/A came with 205/70/14's which are 819 reves per mile and 25.4 diameter. The wheels I swapped on are 245/50/16's which are 808 revs per mile, and 25.7 diameter, so the difference is only like 1.2%.
            Hey, Frank, it's not possible. Not quite sure what math you're using there, but there is no way you have a 4.92 gear. Even if you had 5.11 zoomies or something similar, you'd be turning 4200+ at 80 mph.

            I'm just guessing, but you likely have between a 3.73 or 4.11 gear in the new car.

            And I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of the speedos are off.
            Originally posted by Redd8407
            I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
            Originally posted by Z28ISGR8
            WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
            Originally posted by Darren
            I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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            • #7
              I'd have the speedo recalibrated, or drive past one of those cop signs that gives you the speed as you drive by. When I went from 15" rims to 17" rims my speedo was 5 mph off.
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              • #8
                Something smells fishy. I think you need to have the tach checked or have someone check your math. 4.9 gears would never been put in a T/A from GM. I am guessing you have either 3.08s or maybe 3.23s.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pheonix_rising View Post
                  Something smells fishy. I think you need to have the tach checked or have someone check your math. 4.9 gears would never been put in a T/A from GM. I am guessing you have either 3.08s or maybe 3.23s.
                  I'm betting he's got aftermarket 4.11s in there...
                  Originally posted by Redd8407
                  I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
                  Originally posted by Z28ISGR8
                  WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
                  Originally posted by Darren
                  I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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                  • #10
                    doubtful...

                    i would say a nice set of 3.73's... my on my dodge i put some bigger tires on it.. not too much bigger, just one size.. (if i could only remember.. its been so long)
                    and at 50 on the speedo, im doing 58.. at 70. im doing 81...

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                    • #11
                      yeah it doesn't take much to knock the speedo out of alignment.
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                      Administrator, LTxTech.com


                      1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
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                      • #12
                        nope,

                        and speaking of that i need to get my speedo gear in the tranny swapped, it says im doing 48 when im doing 35




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                        • #13
                          The speedometer is mechanical cable driven so I'm not sure about the recalibration being needed. I wish we had some of the mile marker signs around here in Jackson, thats an easy way to figure it out.

                          The math I used is posted already and its accurate. Its a simple ratio equation:

                          3.08 ....__?___
                          ----- : .------
                          2000.... 3200

                          Basically, 3200 X 3.08 divided by 2000 = 4.928
                          Last edited by hgffrank; April 23rd, 2007, 12:30 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by hgffrank View Post
                            The speedometer is mechanical cable driven so I'm not sure about the recalibration being needed. I wish we had some of the mile marker signs around here in Jackson, thats an easy way to figure it out.

                            The math I used is posted already and its accurate. Its a simple ratio equation:

                            3.08 ....__?___
                            ----- : .------
                            2000.... 3200

                            Basically, 3200 X 3.08 divided by 2000 = 4.928
                            Well, I guess either one of two things is happening.

                            1. You're running 5.00 rear gear...or...
                            2. You're speedo and/or tach is jacked up.

                            Both are possible, but I'm betting on the speedo/tach.
                            Originally posted by Redd8407
                            I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
                            Originally posted by Z28ISGR8
                            WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
                            Originally posted by Darren
                            I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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                            • #15
                              Your speedo is probably off by a little and you have a nice set of 4.88 gears which is possible in a 10bolt.Its the biggest you can fit, I am 90% sure of it
                              WHY you would have that is beyond me, but it is possible..

                              Could the 10 bolt have been taken out of an old drag car, or a truck maybe??

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