Kyle, maybe you can explain this. I know when you put a new diff in, that you have to paint the gears and check for the correct shims. How the hell do you do that?
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Well if you are replacing the pinion & ring gear there is quit a bit that has to be done to get the correct mesh.Originally posted by my95z28 View PostKyle, maybe you can explain this. I know when you put a new diff in, that you have to paint the gears and check for the correct shims. How the hell do you do that?
1. You have to set the correct depth for the pinion and that is given to you on a new set.
The depth is from the cap line to the top of the pinion.
A depth mic is the best tool for this.
To adjust that you have to remove the bearing from the pinion and place shims under it to get the right messurement and you will need a press or a bearing seperator to do that.
Always get a shim set when doing gears!!!
2. A good starting point is the shims that were in you rear before.
Take and set your shims in the rear, attach your bearings to the carrier
and drop it in place.
If it's sloppy add shims to push the ring gear away from the pinion, this should fit tight.
Put your caps on and tighten the bolts down to the propper setting.
3. You will need a dial indicator for this step.
Take the indicator and set it up on a tooth.
rotate the carrier all the way forward and zero out the indicator and then roll it backwards and see what your reading is.
A standard Chevy rear should have no more than .010 (Ten Thousands) play front to back and no less than .008 (Eight Thousands).
This clearance is for the rear end lube that is about .004 (Four Thousands) thick.
Too tight and she'll burn up, too loose and you will blow up.
So depending on what you find with this step will determin where you need to add & remove the shims.
4. Once you have your carrier set you can paint up a few teeth (5-10) with the compound that is provided.
You can also get it at Auto Zone if you don't have any.
This will help you see the depth of the teeth from the pinion to the ring gear.
You want to see a half moon shape (mesh) on your ring gear.
If you don't see this then your pinion could be too high or too low.
Then you will have to adjust the pinion again and do it all over again.
If you are just replacing the ring gear then you only have to do steps 3 & 4.
Your pinion should be o.k. but if you blew up your rear you should be doing everything from bearings to gears.
This isn't job I would do with the rear in the car unless you have a lift!!
Any questions?
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Here is an idea of the separator you would need for the Pinion bearing:

And here is a style of gauge that you would need to set the pinion depth:

I got all these pics from Summit's site.
CS3 might even be able to get some of this stuff if you would need it.
Here are the links to these tools from Summit:
Pinion depth tool:
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
Bearing separator:
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
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Damn, I wish that there was a writeup with pictures on how to do this. I have a completely new Torsen diff, bearings, pinion seal and gears. I don't want to throw a ring gear in there with the pre-existing pinion since they are run together so they don't whine. Thank you very much!!
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may want someone with experience help you with it if its your first timeOriginally posted by my95z28 View PostDamn, I wish that there was a writeup with pictures on how to do this. I have a completely new Torsen diff, bearings, pinion seal and gears. I don't want to throw a ring gear in there with the pre-existing pinion since they are run together so they don't whine. Thank you very much!!2011 Ford Raptor SuperCrew
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Yah, I'm thinking that I'm either gonna hold off for an awesome write-up or pay someone to do it when it warms up.
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i was going to do a gear swap myself but i have a lot of confidence that ill **** it up lol...so ill probably be taking it somewhere2011 Ford Raptor SuperCrew
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The 1st gear swap I did was on my 98 GMC with an open carrier.
Took me all of 4hrs to do my 1st time.
I do have plans to rebuild a rear I have here in my garage in the spring some time.
I'll document it
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If you have any questions PM me.
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That will help A TON! I am positive that I can do it with pics.

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