Clattering and popping out of 3rd (4th sometimes)

[pHEnomIC]

Was at the track today, did 2 passes and my clutch got stuck down at the end of my runs for some reason. I had to physically pull the clutch pedal up.

I did one 1/8th mile run with no problem.

Did another 1/4 mile, slammed it in 3rd as usual and it missed the gear (i believe i had it in the right spot). Anyways, after that, on the ride home it clatters and pops out of 3rd unless i forcefully hold it in place. Occasionally it pops out of 4th as well.

Why was the clutch stuck down?

I did some searching and it sounds like the slider keys are worn out to make it pop out of gear. How can i be sure of this? I am a diy kind of guy so it looks like im gonna be pulling the trans and rebuilding that. Anything else i should do at the same time? Probably gonna change the clutch.

I think it may be possible that i bent the linkage or something, is that a possiblity and how do icheck for that?

[SS4Matt]

you boiled the fluid in your clutch, that's why the pedal stuck to the ground. your 3rd-4th shift fork is bent more then likely. replace that with the steel fork from the viper box....syncro's are most likely bad as well.... time for a rebuild, it'll set ya back some $$ i think my rebuild was like $1200 or something from Walsh "D&D" but i needed a new input shaft and cluster....that was like $800 alone or something....

[kammi10]

damn man that sucks

[JoeliusZ28]

you boiled the fluid in your clutch, that's why the pedal stuck to the ground. your 3rd-4th shift fork is bent more then likely. replace that with the steel fork from the viper box....syncro's are most likely bad as well.... time for a rebuild, it'll set ya back some $$ i think my rebuild was like $1200 or something from Walsh "D&D" but i needed a new input shaft and cluster....that was like $800 alone or something....

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dammmn jon

[1BADAIR]

2002 already has the steel fork. You broke a slider key.
upgrade to the billet 3-4 keys.
I went through mine last summer and replaced 2 and 3 gear, 3-4 keys, 1/2 and 3-4 slider, and blocker rings
it will damage the slider, and syncro's if you keep driving it.
the clutch stuck due to boiling the fluid which is caused by a slipping clutch

[SS4Matt]

word....larry's broke enough 6 speeds. i forgot about the sliders, i had the billet ones put in

[1BADAIR]

don't jinx me. its works OK right now.
the clutch on the other hand.... well I think its finally starting to be overcome by abuse after 22,000 agressive miles

[1BADAIR]

word....larry's broke enough 6 speeds.

and 12 bolts

also recommend getting bronze fork pads too

[SS4Matt]

and 12 bolts

also recommend getting bronze fork pads too

damn you shoulda went with a 9" atleast....although i think i remember you saying you picked up your 12 for a really good price....

[JoeliusZ28]

man i had a whim i would break something at lapeer today (10 bolt)... which is why i left my car at home.

sucks this is gonna be a pricey and pita fix.

[1BADAIR]

damn you shoulda went with a 9" atleast....although i think i remember you saying you picked up your 12 for a really good price....

$1000 for a 33 spline moser wasn't a bad deal. It came out of the OHIO boys car.
it seems to be working with the solid pinion spacer in it

[pHEnomIC]

Can i drive the car as long as i stay out of 3rd and 4th for the time being? I am working mon-weds 8am-8pm the next two weeks and thurs-sun im outta town.

So basically, few miles here and there in town. I will probably pull the trans next monday. Plan to rebuild it myself (bent fork and/or slider keys and check for other worn items), I will do the drill mod, and also get a textralia clutch.

I cant decide on whether or not to get a heavy or light flywheel, any input?

[JoeliusZ28]

id just take the camaro for the time being dude. your sis can go without for a while

and the flywheel - i think you should go with stock if you want the best drivability with your cam.

[archemedes]

yeah if it's acting up park it, when one gear fails it tends to take others eventually

[1BADAIR]

you won't like driving with a light flywheel. I wouldn't drive it. I drove mine about 50 miles with a broken key and thats why I had to replace a few gears. The gears ate the broken key