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  • #16
    8-O incidently Bill also had a 2002 ZL1 built and painted like the 1969.




    and a couple more of the 69


    Western Michigan Camaro Club ~ President
    1987 Camaro IROC-Z Pearl White & Black w/ Red Pearl, 355 TPI, A4, 3:42, AirRide,"GOMARO"
    2017 Silverado Double Cab Z71 Pepperdust Metallic, 5.3, A6, 3:42, "SASYZ71"
    2005 Pontiac Grand Prix GT White, 3800
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    "A government big enough to give you everything you want,
    is strong enough to take everything you have." — Thomas Jefferson

    "Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who
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    • #17
      Originally posted by kammi10 View Post
      ok so forgive me for my lack of knowledge but why in the heck does it only have a door bar for the roll bar on the drivers side?
      Hmmm...good question...maybe because it was never expected to carry a passenger?

      Just a guess...
      Originally posted by Redd8407
      I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
      Originally posted by Z28ISGR8
      WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
      Originally posted by Darren
      I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar View Post
        One of the ZL1s burned to the ground when his trailer caught on fire, but I don't remember which one it was...I think it was this one, but definately not sure...and I believe the yellow one was the only yellow ZL1...
        Yup, it was this one (not the yellow one). If I recall correctly, it happened on the way home from Super Chevy Indy one year (may have been another show, though). A wheel bearing went out on his trailer, overheated and started to burn. By the time he realized it, and pulled off to the side of the road, it was burning pretty good. He quickly tried to get the car out of the burning trailer before it completely burned to the ground. I remember Bill suffered some pretty nasty burns on his hands and arms. The car was damaged quite a lot, but at least was intact enough to be restored again.

        I remember the mid-engine Cutlass. It was on the cover of Hot Rod or Car Craft once. He had some other pretty interesting cars along the way as well.

        Here's a couple funny storys about Bill. He was a member of WMCC at one time and one November (back in the mid-80's), he drove his yellow ZL-1 to our Club meeting in northwest Grand Rapids. It was a typical November day, overcast, around 40 degrees and spitting a misty rain. I pulled into the parking lot of where we met to see this yellow '69 Camaro parked right in the front row, between a couple of regular cars. As I got closer, I saw the liscense plate which said "69 ZL1" and about flipped out. It was the only Camaro in the parking lot that day, as everyone else drover their "winter cars".

        As I walked in, Bill was giving me the evil eye. He says, "this is the Camaro Club meeting, right?" I said, "yes" and he says "Where are all the Camaros?" I replied, "Bill, it's raining". He laughed and called us a bunch of wimps! Who else would drive a '69 ZL-1 in the rain?

        To this day, if I see Bill, he'll bring up that day and in a whiney voice says, "It's raaaaing". He'll never let me live it down.

        Another time, in the late 80's, my friend John Hooper from Maryland was doing research on his first book about Camaros (he's written a few) and was here to interview Dale & Matt Berger. Well, we drove to Bill house (near Lansing) and Bill wanted to drive the yellow Berger ZL-1 to Grand Rapids for the occation. We hopped into the car, I'm in the back seat. I'll tell you that a big block with chambered exhaust is pretty loud! Anyway, by the time we get to Portland, Bill is out of coffee, so we pull into Arbys for a new cup. As we walk out to the car again, Bill tosses the keys to John. John gives him a surprised look, like saying "you want me to drive the ZL-!?". Bill just says, "You can drive a 4 speed, right?" So we are getting back into the car and Bill sets his hot coffee cup on the dash so he can put his seat belt on, and the steam is fogging up the windshield. I thought John was gonna have a heart attack.

        So John drives the rest of the way to Grand Rapids and into Berger. There's only one parking spot and it's right in the front of the show room. John is hesitant to pull in between the other two cars, but Bill gives him the "look" and we pull right in. Just then a young sale guy comes out to greet us, and all of a sudden, he realizes that this is the same car that's on a poster on the show room wall. He starts stammering and opening the door for us and says "is there anything I can do for you guys?" Bill just looks at him and says, "I could use another cup oif coffee."

        The interview went well and we had a pretty interesting day. Bill never was one of those guys that thinks cars are sacred. It was just another '69 Camaro as far as hes was concerned. Bill always says, "you can restore a car a hundred times, but they are only original once", but that still didn't stop him from driving it.

        Bill is an interesting character, that's for sure.
        RIP Doug,You will always be remembered
        3/3/53 ~ 12/22/10

        Western Michigan Camaro Club - President
        2002 Hot Rod Magazine Ltd. Ed. by Berger
        1985 Camaro IROC-Z
        1974 Camaro Type LT / Z28
        2002 Trail Blazer LTZ
        2003 Honda VFR 800i Interceptor

        1996 Camaro SS (Sold )

        www.wmcamaro.org

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        • #19
          Great stories, Doug.

          And if I recall correctly, he found the yellow one in a junkyard...
          Originally posted by Redd8407
          I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
          Originally posted by Z28ISGR8
          WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
          Originally posted by Darren
          I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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          • #20
            Cool stories Doug!!!
            Gone but not forgotten: 1986 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z

            "You shall ride eternal. Shiny and chrome."

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            • #21
              A pic of what it looked like after the fire.
              zl1burn.jpg
              Western Michigan Camaro Club ~ President
              1987 Camaro IROC-Z Pearl White & Black w/ Red Pearl, 355 TPI, A4, 3:42, AirRide,"GOMARO"
              2017 Silverado Double Cab Z71 Pepperdust Metallic, 5.3, A6, 3:42, "SASYZ71"
              2005 Pontiac Grand Prix GT White, 3800
              WMCC Website www.wmcamaro.org

              "A government big enough to give you everything you want,
              is strong enough to take everything you have." — Thomas Jefferson

              "Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who
              are willing to work and give to those who would not."
              Thomas Jefferson

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              • #22
                ouch




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                • #23
                  Thanks for sharing that story Doug.
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                  • #24
                    That picture...

                    Gone but not forgotten: 1986 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z

                    "You shall ride eternal. Shiny and chrome."

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by meissen View Post
                      Yessir - that's the one. I absolutely love watching when they start that car up inside the trailer and watching the trailer walls flexing and rippling from the exhaust.
                      Brian, did you know there's a die cast model of Matt's Berger Camaro?

                      http://www.gmpdiecast.com/products/d...cale%20Camaros


                      Yes, I already have one.
                      RIP Doug,You will always be remembered
                      3/3/53 ~ 12/22/10

                      Western Michigan Camaro Club - President
                      2002 Hot Rod Magazine Ltd. Ed. by Berger
                      1985 Camaro IROC-Z
                      1974 Camaro Type LT / Z28
                      2002 Trail Blazer LTZ
                      2003 Honda VFR 800i Interceptor

                      1996 Camaro SS (Sold )

                      www.wmcamaro.org

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                      • #26
                        damn fires.. always a party pooper!

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                        • #27
                          You can see Bill's arms bandaged up from his burns (standing by the drivers door). That could have been a LOT worse.
                          RIP Doug,You will always be remembered
                          3/3/53 ~ 12/22/10

                          Western Michigan Camaro Club - President
                          2002 Hot Rod Magazine Ltd. Ed. by Berger
                          1985 Camaro IROC-Z
                          1974 Camaro Type LT / Z28
                          2002 Trail Blazer LTZ
                          2003 Honda VFR 800i Interceptor

                          1996 Camaro SS (Sold )

                          www.wmcamaro.org

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