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- December 28th, 2005
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- Friends call me Cat.
- '87 305 IROC Z Bride nick named my ride as "The Ole Whore". IDK, jealous maybe?
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Nope...unless Kev has access to something special that's internal to GM.Originally posted by Dirty T/A View PostI will post pics. Looks like a good spot to start a build thread, and keep track of progress and get advice as i go.
I appreciate the offer on the VIN ID. I will send them soon. Can you tell which rear end it has w/ the VIN also?
But it will be a GM corporate 10-bolt with a range of gears (don't let that scare you...it's not anything like the 4th gen 10-bolts). There's a 2-character code followed by a build date on the front passenger side axle tube, and if it's original, will be one of these found here (Hitman's 2nd gen site is a MUST for anyone owning one of these cars):
http://www.78ta.com/rearcodes.php
If it has rear disc brakes, it is most likely a WS6 car.
But it might be a good idea to get the VIN to Pontiac Historical Services...
http://www.phs-online.com/
Their packages ar worth it's weight in gold...Originally posted by Redd8407I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!Originally posted by Z28ISGR8WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?Originally posted by DarrenI think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.
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Jeff has already answered this well, but I'll affirm it anyway -- for something of that vintage, I don't have direct access to the build documentation. Once we determine your original motor from the VIN plate code, we can pretty much tell what rear axle ratios would have been available for the car. Only Pontiac Historical Services would be able to give you the actual doco, though.Originally posted by Dirty T/A View PostI will post pics. Looks like a good spot to start a build thread, and keep track of progress and get advice as i go.
I appreciate the offer on the VIN ID. I will send them soon. Can you tell which rear end it has w/ the VIN also?
For late 4th and all 5th Gen cars, the build info can be found in the GM warranty system.
"PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals" -- 1977z28Will
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And by late he means 2000+
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1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant -
357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven. 
2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI
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My father in law should be joining here pretty soon, as well as the guy who I got my car from. Both TA owners also.Originally posted by 1977z28Will View PostHell yea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! another 2nd gen!..............good luck man, glad to see you saving one!
My father in laws is close to being done. Drives dependably and looks great doing it. Just needs a bit more interior work, and he would like to get a posi rear end hes got rebuilt and installed, as well as have the engine rebuilt with a couple more performance goodies added.
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Think I found a deal I cant pass up......
A 305 (that might be a 350, not sure yet) that ran great before it was pulled. Comes with a trans and torque converter that worked great also. Engine is pretty complete- Intake, carb, alternator, flywheel. Just doesnt have the radiator or exhaust mani/headers. It does come with the pipes, mani back, and some california turbo mufflers that were previously installed on a Z28. $350....might have to jump on this deal, to get the car rolling, even if it is just for short term. I am thinking a 455 eventually, but think this will be a good start, for now.
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- December 9th, 2011
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I'd have to look in the barn, but I used to have one or two 400 pontiac motors in there. Not sure if they went to the scrap yard

1998 Camaro Z28 - Bright Red, 6.0 TR224, 4l60e, 3.42 Eaton TrueTrac
1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible - 355 big tube TPI, WC T5, 3.42 Zexel Torsen, CTS-V/C4 brakes
1955 Bel Air 2 Door Post - 357 TPI, Muncie M20, 4 wheel disc
2006 Saab 9-7x 5.3i Daily Driver
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I like your way of thinking...Originally posted by Dirty T/A View PostI am thinking a 455 eventually, but think this will be a good start, for now.
What? You SCRAPPED a couple of 400s?Originally posted by hoogiesngrinderz View PostI'd have to look in the barn, but I used to have one or two 400 pontiac motors in there. Not sure if they went to the scrap yard
Originally posted by Redd8407I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!Originally posted by Z28ISGR8WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?Originally posted by DarrenI think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.
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Welkom to the site, enjoy!!!West Michigan Pontiac Club
"A Camaro looks like it can kick your a**, a Trans Am is coming over to do it"
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- Michael H
- 1989 Iroc-Z Convertible/1998 Z28
- Greenville, MI
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That would be my father. He sees little value in anything that sits around for a bit. I found a list tonight that had my 305, 97 rear housing, and the old front front bumper/chin spoiler from my IROC all on the docket for the next scrap run. What. The. F***.Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar View PostWhat? You SCRAPPED a couple of 400s?

I think he scrapped a running inline 6 that came out of the 67 Firebird, a BOP th350 or th400, numerous 3 speed manuals that came with my Bel Air, etc etc

1998 Camaro Z28 - Bright Red, 6.0 TR224, 4l60e, 3.42 Eaton TrueTrac
1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible - 355 big tube TPI, WC T5, 3.42 Zexel Torsen, CTS-V/C4 brakes
1955 Bel Air 2 Door Post - 357 TPI, Muncie M20, 4 wheel disc
2006 Saab 9-7x 5.3i Daily Driver
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Wow...
Does he just have a lot of money that he's willing to scrap stuff that could be sold?
- Brian Meissen
Owner, MiFBody.com
Administrator, LTxTech.com

1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant -
357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven. 
2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI
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