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    Hi guys, my wife has a 95 firebird formula. Last spring she decided it was a good idea to drive it with it hot until it quit running. The engine already had low oil pressure and I knew it had some problems. I purchased a 95 police interceptor engine so I can drop it in the car and rebuild her original engine. My question is, how much different are the cast police interceptor heads compared to the aluminum LT1 heads? I'm guessing her heads will be warped or cracked worse case scenario. And I figure I will be better off buying some after market heads when I rebuild her engine because she would like to start drag racing it while we are at the track. So I guess, what heads work the best for a tight budget on these engines?

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    used stock castings can be had for approx. $200

    you will be better having the stock castings ported than going to an aftermarket casting. It all depends on how fast you want to go. Some guys ahve run in the 9's with ported stock heads, naturally aspirated

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    • #3
      interceptor heads are iron. They flow better as they are based on the vortec design, but due to the heat conduction they cannot offer as much compression. Overall they perform about the same, but the downside is that they weigh 40 pounds more than the aluminum versions.
      -Joel
      1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
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      • #4
        please do not cheap out and put the iron heads you have in an fbody

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ThreeHonks View Post
          please do not cheap out and put the iron heads you have in an fbody
          noticing that its his wife's car, which means its probably a stock setup... i think the difference would be negligible.
          -Joel
          1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
          1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


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          • #6
            Just paint the heads silver and all will be well, lol. Eric L

            1997 Camaro SS #2819 M6, Red, 3.42, 1 of 27, Ttops, BBK shorty headers, Flowmaster cat back, 1.6 rr, LT4 valve springs, ASAM CAI, Centerforce clutch, runs 12s, breaks 10 bolts.
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            • #7
              -Joel
              1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
              1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


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              • #8
                Like Joel and Ryan are both saying - right now iron heads should be fine while you rebuild the other motor. For the drag racing setup a good stock heads ported would do you well. You don't have to go to Lloyd Elliot or Advanced Induction as there are a handful of great porters here in MI that are local.
                - Brian Meissen
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                Administrator, LTxTech.com


                1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
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                • #9
                  sorry, read the original post worng. go ahead and use the iron heads for now (jsut to get the car running) but dont expect the same performance out of them as the f body heads (Aluminum)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ThreeHonks View Post
                    sorry, read the original post worng. go ahead and use the iron heads for now (jsut to get the car running) but dont expect the same performance out of them as the f body heads (Aluminum)
                    actually because of their flow advantage I have seen them perform quite comparably. Some even claim 1/4 mile gains from them. But in all honestly Im betting it is just fabricated information from some dumbo trying to cover up an idiot move. I certainly wouldn't risk the 40 pounds extra trying such a thing.

                    But that said, the LT1 could have had more potential if GM had been smart enough to make the aluminum LT1 casting the same as the vortecs. Unfortunately no such casting was ever created.
                    -Joel
                    1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                    1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


                    WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JoeliusZ28 View Post
                      actually because of their flow advantage I have seen them perform quite comparably. Some even claim 1/4 mile gains from them. But in all honestly Im betting it is just fabricated information from some dumbo trying to cover up an idiot move. I certainly wouldn't risk the 40 pounds extra trying such a thing.

                      But that said, the LT1 could have had more potential if GM had been smart enough to make the aluminum LT1 casting the same as the vortecs. Unfortunately no such casting was ever created.


                      there is NO way that they get a performance gain. They have bigger chambers so they kill compression. They flow about the same, but I think what you are getting at is that they have a lot of meat on them for porting

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ThreeHonks View Post


                        there is NO way that they get a performance gain. They have bigger chambers so they kill compression. They flow about the same, but I think what you are getting at is that they have a lot of meat on them for porting
                        They do not flow the same. The iron heads are based on the vortec heads/ports which do flow better.

                        http://www.fierolt1.com/lt1_lt4_headflow.htm
                        -Joel
                        1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                        1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


                        WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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                        • #13
                          Great website, thanks!
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                          1994 Camaro Z28 83K M6, CAI, AFR 190cc, 11.6:1, Hooker headers, Hooker ORY, Mangnaflow exhaust, AI 230/238, 1.6 RR, B&M Short throw, Hays clutch, 4.10 gear.

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                          manuals should be launched off the limiter and the throttle shouldn't leave the floor til 10 feet after the finish line

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                          • #14
                            I can also testify to this. The iron heads do indeed flow beter. But.....but, they cost more to port because the cast iron is harder and takes more bits, sanding disks and time. You cant run as much compression because they are cast iron, and IIRC the combustion chamber is bigger effectively droping the compression on a stock F body lt1 short block. All that being said, they do flow very well, but I would stick with aluminum..................or just paint them silver and after a while you will start BELIEVING they are aluminum, and you will never notice the performance differance one way or the other, lol. Eric L

                            1997 Camaro SS #2819 M6, Red, 3.42, 1 of 27, Ttops, BBK shorty headers, Flowmaster cat back, 1.6 rr, LT4 valve springs, ASAM CAI, Centerforce clutch, runs 12s, breaks 10 bolts.
                            http://s602.photobucket.com/albums/t...20Camaro%20SS/


                            1963 Plymouth Valiant Signet 200, 6.0 LS3, Carb, Rapid Motorsports Dominator 2X cam.
                            http://s602.photobucket.com/albums/t...uth%20Valiant/

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JoeliusZ28 View Post
                              They do not flow the same. The iron heads are based on the vortec heads/ports which do flow better.

                              http://www.fierolt1.com/lt1_lt4_headflow.htm

                              Im just arguing that you wont see a huge performance gain with them. Especially if you wan to make good power, these heads arent for you.

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