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    Well a friend of mine is getting a third gen and wants a 91-92 nose for it, but wants to know which of them had the fog lights in them, the formulas or what?

    I am no official on this so if there is a place I can find this info it would be very helpful in the future as well..

    more questions will ensue
    99 Buick Regal GS- New DD

    SOLD-1983 Firebird-305-2.5 inch custom bent exhaust w/ dynomax muffler-2004r-87 TA 3.08 posi-90 Camaro brakes-91-92 Hatch-87 TA bumpers and GFX-89 TA Tailights-87 TA front fenders-16 inch GTA wheels
    SOLD-1967 Buick Skylark

    Originally posted by ThreeHonks
    I like having a loud car, every time the neighbors dog barks, I just go let my car sit and idle in the driveway

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    thirdgen.org has a lot of info on 3rd gens
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    Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar


    Can you argue that it's "revolutionary"? Perhaps. Just because it's "new" and "different" doesn't mean it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

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    • #3
      From scrolling through some images, it looks like the nose is the same for all of them.
      Originally posted by Redd8407
      I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
      Originally posted by Z28ISGR8
      WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
      Originally posted by Darren
      I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar View Post
        From scrolling through some images, it looks like the nose is the same for all of them.
        I agree appears to me as well that they all have the same nose on them 1991-1992
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        Originally posted by meissen
        I actually agree with Darren on everything he said...
        Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar
        Yep, pretty much...not too often I agree 100% with Darren, but there it is...


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        • #5
          It's hard to explain the differences "on paper" between the bumpers of a 91-92 Formula vs the Trans Am, but I'll give it a try.

          First of all between the years there is no difference, it's between models that the difference occurs.They all had turn signals in the front, although not all had fog lamps. Fog lamps were part of the Sport Appearance Package which was avaliable on Firebird and standard on Trans Am.

          There is a huge difference in design between the Trans Am/Sport Appearance Package bumper and the Formula bumper.

          The Trans Am's front bumper cover had a more areodynamic appearance. Which included an extra bump-out on the lower portion to match up with it's Areo-side ground effects, and the center portion has a more curved opening going back to the fog lamp/turn signal.

          The Formula's lower portion did not have the extra bump-out, and has more of a sharp cut-in going back to the turn signal. (A much cleaner look, IMO) The Formula was not available with the Sport Appearance Package and therefore I've never seen one with fogs lamps. That doesn't mean that a Formula bumper couldn't be converted to accept the fog lamps though, all depends on what look your friend wants.

          I hope you can see the differences from the photo's below.




          Formula style front end........





          Trans Am style front end.............



          In this photo you can see how the fog lamps look on a GTA........


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          • #6
            My 92 base Firebird had fog lights as well in the nose.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by SoulTerror View Post
              My 92 base Firebird had fog lights as well in the nose.
              That's because your car also had the Sport Appearance Package.
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              "A Camaro looks like it can kick your a**, a Trans Am is coming over to do it"

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              • #8
                Learned something today...
                Originally posted by Redd8407
                I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
                Originally posted by Z28ISGR8
                WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
                Originally posted by Darren
                I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 92conv View Post
                  That's because your car also had the Sport Appearance Package.
                  Point?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SoulTerror View Post
                    Point?
                    Did you read this part of my first post????


                    Fog lamps were part of the Sport Appearance Package which was avaliable on Firebird and standard on Trans Am.
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                    "A Camaro looks like it can kick your a**, a Trans Am is coming over to do it"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 92conv View Post
                      Did you read this part of my first post????
                      Nope I just skimmed it


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                      • #12
                        The one with ground effects has the fog lights.

                        The one with black inserts is the one w/o ground effects. I like that one better, so I switched it out on my car. So I have ground effects on my whole car except the front. It doens't look that bad, I think.

                        ACTUALLY --- I still have my old one! I think I also have the side little gfx in front of the fenders. I'll sell it for $150
                        Last edited by Chicklet; April 21st, 2009, 12:34 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Here's some pix, just cuz I can... hee hee hee
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bigjon88 View Post
                            thirdgen.org has a lot of info on 3rd gens
                            you maybe right , but they are also alot ruder and arrogant MiFbody people aren't..

                            Originally posted by 92conv View Post
                            It's hard to explain the differences "on paper" between the bumpers of a 91-92 Formula vs the Trans Am, but I'll give it a try.

                            First of all between the years there is no difference, it's between models that the difference occurs.They all had turn signals in the front, although not all had fog lamps. Fog lamps were part of the Sport Appearance Package which was avaliable on Firebird and standard on Trans Am.

                            There is a huge difference in design between the Trans Am/Sport Appearance Package bumper and the Formula bumper.

                            The Trans Am's front bumper cover had a more areodynamic appearance. Which included an extra bump-out on the lower portion to match up with it's Areo-side ground effects, and the center portion has a more curved opening going back to the fog lamp/turn signal.

                            The Formula's lower portion did not have the extra bump-out, and has more of a sharp cut-in going back to the turn signal. (A much cleaner look, IMO) The Formula was not available with the Sport Appearance Package and therefore I've never seen one with fogs lamps. That doesn't mean that a Formula bumper couldn't be converted to accept the fog lamps though, all depends on what look your friend wants.
                            THANK YOU very much, that explains it all to me, and will help TREMENDOUSLY

                            Originally posted by Chicklet View Post
                            The one with ground effects has the fog lights.

                            The one with black inserts is the one w/o ground effects. I like that one better, so I switched it out on my car. So I have ground effects on my whole car except the front. It doens't look that bad, I think.

                            ACTUALLY --- I still have my old one! I think I also have the side little gfx in front of the fenders. I'll sell it for $150
                            I will keep in mind you have the ugly one for sale, lol IMHO I like the one you installed on your car as well but he may want the uglier of the two so I will keep you in mind. thanks
                            99 Buick Regal GS- New DD

                            SOLD-1983 Firebird-305-2.5 inch custom bent exhaust w/ dynomax muffler-2004r-87 TA 3.08 posi-90 Camaro brakes-91-92 Hatch-87 TA bumpers and GFX-89 TA Tailights-87 TA front fenders-16 inch GTA wheels
                            SOLD-1967 Buick Skylark

                            Originally posted by ThreeHonks
                            I like having a loud car, every time the neighbors dog barks, I just go let my car sit and idle in the driveway

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Chicklet View Post
                              Here's some pix, just cuz I can... hee hee hee
                              Haha for some reason I cant stop looking at your car!
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                              Originally posted by meissen
                              I actually agree with Darren on everything he said...
                              Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar
                              Yep, pretty much...not too often I agree 100% with Darren, but there it is...


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