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My car is a Trans Am and I will not try to play it off as a WS6. There's no reason to. It has everything and more than a stock WS6. If I would have bought at WS6, it would have been just one more badge for me to take off.
Would you call someone out for putting SS on their Z28?
Yes.
And mostly the differences are aesthetic, other than a ram-air airbox. My car is just a Firebird...too different now to really give it a moniker. Hey, maybe I should call it a Firebird ZO6 because I have LS6 heads on it.
Sad thing is there's plenty of people who would believe me.
The bottom line is both packages are little more then badging and asthetics.
A real deal SS/WS6 will bring more cash and accolades from collectors but from a performance standpoint theres little difference from the base cars.
When I ordered mine in Jan 1998 I debated whether to order as a WS6 or maybe even a 1LE. I decided against it from a financial standpoint and I've never regreted that descision. My base Formula M6 stickered for $23,630 including destination charge and is equal in performance to a $25K Trans Am or $28-30K WS6.
In the end to answer the question And individual has every right to do what he/she wants to their vehicle, But if they misrepresent the car as such during a sale they deserve to be called out.
Craig
Semi Retired Street Racer
2012 Lava Red Mustang GT 5.0 MT82
GONE BUT NOT FORGOTEN
sigpic NBM `98 Formula M6 HdTp
1 of 1 Build Date 3/12/98
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."
"For you who believe all you read, I caution you - you are daily being brainwashed for profit by extremely effective psychology with very little regard to factual accuracy. In short, you're at the mercy of the world's greatest bullshit artists with the morals of a stray tomcat." - Smokey Yunick
Parts are parts and the Vin doesn't say much but the RPO list tells all.
Craig
Semi Retired Street Racer
2012 Lava Red Mustang GT 5.0 MT82
GONE BUT NOT FORGOTEN
sigpic NBM `98 Formula M6 HdTp
1 of 1 Build Date 3/12/98
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."
"For you who believe all you read, I caution you - you are daily being brainwashed for profit by extremely effective psychology with very little regard to factual accuracy. In short, you're at the mercy of the world's greatest bullshit artists with the morals of a stray tomcat." - Smokey Yunick
Really though, there wernt a lot of performance differences in the 4th gens. Hood spoiler and wheels?
If your asking if their (WS6/SS) better performers then the answer is NO. The cars are equal so it's really a drivers race.
Craig
Semi Retired Street Racer
2012 Lava Red Mustang GT 5.0 MT82
GONE BUT NOT FORGOTEN
sigpic NBM `98 Formula M6 HdTp
1 of 1 Build Date 3/12/98
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."
"For you who believe all you read, I caution you - you are daily being brainwashed for profit by extremely effective psychology with very little regard to factual accuracy. In short, you're at the mercy of the world's greatest bullshit artists with the morals of a stray tomcat." - Smokey Yunick
Honestly, they're cars. I still don't understand why people take it upon themselves to put someone else's car down because it's not the "Real Deal". My Monte Carlo isn't a "true" SS, but I don't try to pass it off as one. It's got all the factory equipped options specific to the SS (except for the auto ride leveling system), with the exception of badges and a numbers-matching LS6 (it's got the LS6, just not standard equipment).
As long as it's not hurting someone else, I say live and let live.
A Camaro is a Camaro and a Firebird is a Firebird. They're all F-Bodies though. Doesn't matter if it's a base model V6 or a fully loaded WS6 Firehawk, they all start as the same thing.
i personally dont care unless you try to sell it as a misrepresentation and make a buck off it. then im calling you out. other then that do what makes you happy. i cant afford a lt1 ss nor would i feel ok molesting one into what i want to make into my car so ill buy the hood and spoiler at some point and put them on my car. its still a z28 but it has my touches to it. they just are factory on a similar car
i dotn understand what you are saying nate? Are you asking if its ok to put a ram air hood on a bird or an SS hood on a camaro? Absolutely. But I think people who have a z28 and decide to put SS badges on it or a WS6 badge are ghey.
Its like putting a cobra badge on a normal mustang. Its not just the suspension and cosmetic items that determine if it is a true SS or WS6. It is in the vin as well as the RPO codes. I still have my window sticker and it shows my car is 100% accurate, retailed for $27k was the price on the window sticker
I don't think clones are a problem. Half the 69 camaros you see nowadays are clones and no one gets in a tizzy about it. I'd rock a clone of something and I wouldnt care what someone thinks of me for it. Selling is the problem point. I see nothing wrong with selling a cloned car as long as you describe it as such. But selling a clone as something real... well there are legal issues with that for a good reason so no need to discuss really.
Last edited by JoeliusZ28; February 6th, 2011, 11:48 AM.
What i am saying is that if I buy a 97 TA, and put on all the WS6 parts...is the wrong to put WS6 badges on it? Technically it is a WS6 because it has WS6 parts on it.
its a topic with no answer. egg or chicken ? lol
So the vin/sticker on the door define "what" a car is, or do the parts on the car?
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