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    just got back from the machine shop, he seems to think i need to upgrade my crankshaft to at least a cast steel. has anyone heard of stock LT crank failing on a street strip motor 450 WRHP? thanks guys
    Last edited by kyleozzie; January 20th, 2010, 05:27 PM.
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    2012 Jeep Patriot

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    I wouldnt think so, but im not much of a ltx guy.
    1999 Camaro - 6 liters of fury.....

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    • #3
      absolutely not. The stock crank is one of your strongest options until you start looking at expensive forged cranks.
      -Joel
      1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
      1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


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      • #4
        Exactly what I was thinking, cranks are usually good for quite a bit of power from the factory, no matter what car.
        1999 Camaro - 6 liters of fury.....

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        • #5
          sweet, i thought so.. but just making sure well this will save me some money! lol looks like ill be buying more stuff tonight
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          2012 Jeep Patriot

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          • #6
            Isn't the one that came factory cast steel? Powdered metal?

            Used to own a Firebird.

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            • #7
              i couldnt tell you what it is but any engine builder will tell you that a stock crank is pretty much the best of its type. They have BY FAR the least defects, and can hold well over 450rwhp. IMO the only time you need to worry about runing a stock crank is either if you are making a LOT of power, or you are rev-limiter launching with traction... thatll split one in half eventually.
              -Joel
              1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
              1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


              WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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              • #8
                Your crank is already cast steel, so replacing it with an aftermarket (read, less quality) cast steel crank would just be dumb. Anybody that doesn't know their materials has no buisness machining them.

                The rule of thumb on factory cast cranks in a SBC (at least GenI's) was that you were safe until around 450-500ft/lbs. After that it's a crap shoot.
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                • #9
                  sounds like you need to find a new machine shop
                  Doing less with more


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DETROITMUSCLE View Post
                    sounds like you need to find a new machine shop
                    thats what I told him last ngiht over the phone. I hope I answered all of your questions.

                    The crank in an LTx is actually cast iron. I have seen well over 600whp put through them. They hold up to nitrous and boosted applications as well. I have a spare in the garage waiting just in case. The stock crank should be the least of your worries, and I mean the very LEAST

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                    • #11
                      Well I told him that I want this thing to be as bullet proof as I can make it, which is why I am converting to the splayed setup. And I think with that he just thought it would make sense to put a better crank in. He said it would be fine but he doesn't recomend reving it over 7 lol but I told him it probaby won't see over 6500 much. So he was fine after that. Lol but thanks guys for all the info!! I am glad to have you guys!
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                      2012 Jeep Patriot

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ThreeHonks View Post
                        thats what I told him last ngiht over the phone. I hope I answered all of your questions.

                        The crank in an LTx is actually cast iron. I have seen well over 600whp put through them. They hold up to nitrous and boosted applications as well. I have a spare in the garage waiting just in case. The stock crank should be the least of your worries, and I mean the very LEAST
                        Yeah you helped me a ton!!! Thanks ryan
                        97 TA AI 355
                        2012 Jeep Patriot

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                        • #13
                          Just an FYI for all you other guys out there. I have 3500 miles on my motor with about 50 track passes. It sees about 7000 rpm shift points, and has seen it PLENTY of times on the street. I will be pulling a main cap and rod cap to check the bearing and it see if the caps are walking at all. I will start a thread and give you an update of how it looks. I will also post results of my UOA. (I have been using Mobile 1 0w40)

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                          • #14
                            depending on your cam the motor may want to spin to 7K
                            Doing less with more


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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DETROITMUSCLE View Post
                              depending on your cam the motor may want to spin to 7K
                              I still wouldnt hesitate to use the stock crank at 7500+ RPM The way I look at this is; if its built prefectly to spec, and the clearances are perfect, it will REALLY increse the amount of power components can handle (plus the stock crank is plenty strong)

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