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  • V6 to V8 Swap

    Hey guys, my buddy has a 97 RS and he is just finishing up a 98-02 front end conversion on the car.

    We are looking at making this a V8 car tho.. so what is needed to get this going.

    Do i pretty much need to find a wrecked LS1 or LT1 car to make this happen?

    If anyone knows where we could pick up a wrecked LT1 Car feel free to post up the info.

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    That'd be the easiest way to do it, in all honesty.

    I would recommend buying an LT1 from a 97 - unfortunately it narrows your search down quite a bit but in the long run it will be MUCH easier. There's wiring changes in every single year so when I put the 95 LT1 in my 94 there were quite a few changes we had to make to the wiring harnesses. It's not horrible, but for most people it seems like wiring changes are impossible.

    This is just a quick run down ... I know I'm missing others...
    • LT1 k-member
    • LT1 radiator
    • LT1 radiator fans (dual fans, most v6 only have 1)
    • heater core hoses from an LT1
    • radiator hoses
    • wiring harness for the engine
    • LT1
    • LT1 4L60e (the v6 is different)
    • LT1 driveshaft
    • LT1 gauge cluster


    I will tell you - it's not for the feint of heart. While a ton of people will say it's not worth it, I will partially disagree with them on it. In most cases, you'll spend tons more than you would have if you just sold the car and bought an LT1 car. BUT - where it DOES NOT pay off to do that is if you've heavily customized the car already. In my case, I would have had to buy an LT1 car first, then swap all of my customized parts onto it, put the stock parts on the v6, and then sell the v6, and even then it would've cost me a shit-ton. IMHO, for me it was worth it.
    Last edited by meissen; July 16th, 2009, 03:51 PM.
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    • #3
      But Bri, you didn't tell him how much $$$ he should budget to make this happen...
      Originally posted by Redd8407
      I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
      Originally posted by Z28ISGR8
      WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
      Originally posted by Darren
      I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar View Post
        But Bri, you didn't tell him how much $$$ he should budget to make this happen...
        Left that information out on purpose?
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        Originally posted by meissen
        I actually agree with Darren on everything he said...
        Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar
        Yep, pretty much...not too often I agree 100% with Darren, but there it is...


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        • #5
          if your gonna do it just the motor swipe with rebuild should run no more than 6g's
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          Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar


          Can you argue that it's "revolutionary"? Perhaps. Just because it's "new" and "different" doesn't mean it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar View Post
            But Bri, you didn't tell him how much $$$ he should budget to make this happen...
            Ah, forgot about that.

            If I would have left the LT1 completely stock, it would have cost me $1500.

            The main thing is to have a RUNNING v6 engine and transmission. You can then sell that and make some cash back. I sold my 3.4L v6 for $300 and the 4L60e for $300. Made out really decently.
            - Brian Meissen
            Owner, MiFBody.com
            Administrator, LTxTech.com


            1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
            2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"
            Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
            June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
            The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI

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            • #7
              Originally posted by meissen View Post
              Ah, forgot about that.

              If I would have left the LT1 completely stock, it would have cost me $1500.

              The main thing is to have a RUNNING v6 engine and transmission. You can then sell that and make some cash back. I sold my 3.4L v6 for $300 and the 4L60e for $300. Made out really decently.

              Thats **** ALL compared to what i thought itd be.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Clutch_Z28 View Post
                Thats **** ALL compared to what i thought itd be.
                Keep in mind I basically bought the engine, the transmission, the engine wiring harness, and the PCM for $200.

                NORMALLY - You could easily spend $6,000 on an engine swap. I only spent $200 on the above parts but I was still 10 GRAND (YES, 10,000) into my engine swap project when it was all done - suspension upgrades, cam and upgrades, etc... gets expensive REALLY fast.
                - Brian Meissen
                Owner, MiFBody.com
                Administrator, LTxTech.com


                1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
                2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"
                Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
                June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
                The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by meissen View Post
                  Keep in mind I basically bought the engine, the transmission, the engine wiring harness, and the PCM for $200.
                  You sir are a thief! lol thats a amazing steal...

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                  • #10
                    Been there, done that. Dont mean to sound like an ls1tech guy, but theres a forum specifically for this, and the "SEARCH" is a wonderful thing. Not sure Id do it again, id just sell it and buy an lsx car.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Clutch_Z28 View Post
                      You sir are a thief! lol thats a amazing steal...
                      I honestly felt bad taking it all home - but the $200 price tag is not the full story. I bought the engine, transmission, engine wiring harness, PCM - as well as the engine bay harness, the entire interior wiring harness from the firewall to the taillights, all four rims and tires, the spare tire, both the driver's side door and the passenger side door, the rear hatch, rear bumper, and rear taillight panel for $1000. I sold my v6 for $300, my v6 4l60e for $300, the rims for $100, and then the rest of the misc parts for another $100. I still have the whole wiring harness for the engine bay and the interior wiring harness as well as the passenger side door. So... really I bought the engine, transmission, PCM, the entire car's wiring harness, and the passenger door for $200.

                      Originally posted by sman View Post
                      Been there, done that. Dont mean to sound like an ls1tech guy, but theres a forum specifically for this, and the "SEARCH" is a wonderful thing. Not sure Id do it again, id just sell it and buy an lsx car.
                      Yeah, you now officially sound like an LS1Tech guy. (and that's not a compliment )
                      - Brian Meissen
                      Owner, MiFBody.com
                      Administrator, LTxTech.com


                      1994 Camaro LT1 Transplant - 357ci LT1, cammed, stalled, and driven.
                      2022 Camaro LT1 - "Cherry Bomb 2"
                      Michigan FBody Meet & Greet Car Show 2022
                      June 4th, 2022 - 9am to 3pm!!!
                      The HUB Stadium, Auburn Hills, MI

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                      • #12
                        Let me say a v6 to v8 conversion is a project that escalates real easy real fast. You start thinking new shocks, then might as well get lowering spring. then the rear end, then might as well build the engine then the trans etc, etc. then at the end you run into costly little things accelerator cable different, cruise control cable different,
                        Last edited by 98blackbeauty; July 17th, 2009, 07:32 AM.
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                        • #13
                          Im talking of just an LT1 Swap.. no mods no nothing.

                          From an auto V6 to a 6 speed LT1

                          He just wants to be able to keep up with the Zeds and SS's and lay some beatings on some big ego mustang owners... lol

                          If the 8 swap doesnt end up taking place is what are some things that can be done to the V6?

                          besides the basic headers, cat-back and CAI

                          How do they react to nitrous? maybe even Boost

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                          • #14
                            guess i could just look at the stickys... lo0ll

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                            • #15
                              or talk to steddyy
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                              Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar


                              Can you argue that it's "revolutionary"? Perhaps. Just because it's "new" and "different" doesn't mean it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

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