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    Ok, looking for some input on the oil in my car. I run 5w-30 Mobil with an oversized WIX filter, and change it every 3000 or less. My most recent change was 2500.

    Even at only 2500 miles, my oil seemed awfully dark, so my instinct was to immediately change it. Since i bought the car, the oil always seemed to get dirty fast. The cylinder heads look clean as can be and the car runs strong as hell so i dont think there is anything wrong with it. Ive been told this is normal but im still skeptical. i use the same stuff in my truck (nearly the same engine) and that oil wont look dirty until 3500 or so. Obviously my car gets driven a harder than my truck, so im sure that accounts for some of it.


    The other thing i am considering is switching to a thicker oil since my engine now has 90k on it. perhaps 10w-30 or 10w-40. My oil pressure is usually 15-20/35-45. It might get close to 50 at WOT. input?
    -Joel
    1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
    1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


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  • #2
    I run 10w30 mobile 1 in everything my truck has 200k on it, the gp has 130k (GTP sc) if your not using oil don't worry about going to a thicker oil. Dirty oil doesn't mean a whole lot except that teh detergents are working. You probably have a bit of blowby or maybe running a bit rich (do you have a cold tstat? that makes it run a bit richer and will make the oil look dirty faster)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by archemedes View Post
      You probably have a bit of blowby or maybe running a bit rich (do you have a cold tstat? that makes it run a bit richer and will make the oil look dirty faster)
      this is what my dad was thinking as well. i have a 160 stat and yes the car does run really cool. about 180 degrees at cruise. when the car is cold it blows black condensation out the muffler (it stains the garage floor).

      i didnt think it could be running too rich though, it gets great gas mileage and runs really strong.

      I supposed i should look into tuning it? im still trying to find a computer that will work with the stupid thing.
      -Joel
      1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
      1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


      WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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      • #4
        The motor is about to blow, you should sell it quick before it's too late. I'll take it off your hands at a discounted rate of coarse.

        I wouldn't worry about ti too much...you are likely running it a little rich. The color isn't as much of a concern as the viscosity......how does it look and feel when you drain it? Does it seem overly thin?
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        • #5
          Just cuz its dark doesnt mean its dirty. It means its doing it job dark usually means heat

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          • #6
            Originally posted by JoeliusZ28 View Post
            this is what my dad was thinking as well. i have a 160 stat and yes the car does run really cool. about 180 degrees at cruise. when the car is cold it blows black condensation out the muffler (it stains the garage floor).

            i didnt think it could be running too rich though, it gets great gas mileage and runs really strong.

            I supposed i should look into tuning it? im still trying to find a computer that will work with the stupid thing.
            the 160 t stat makes it run rich (it makes the computer stay in warm up mode and dump more gas) I run a standard tstat in my car and it stays 195 at idle and cruise in the 100 degree heat here in Alabama, and gets 24 mpg with a supercharger (when it had a 160 stat it got 18 mpg and run around the 180 mark)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by WMCCjames View Post
              The motor is about to blow, you should sell it quick before it's too late. I'll take it off your hands at a discounted rate of coarse.

              I wouldn't worry about ti too much...you are likely running it a little rich. The color isn't as much of a concern as the viscosity......how does it look and feel when you drain it? Does it seem overly thin?


              my car wouldnt be beating so many LS1s if it was on the verge of blowing

              it does come out thin, but thats likely only because i always go out and get it hot before i drain the oil (to make it thin). It comes out like water, but it should after a WOT run.

              Im really gonna try to find a laptop to tune this thing with, im pretty sure its running rich. ...which also means i have more aych-pee's to unleash!!!
              -Joel
              1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
              1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


              WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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              • #8
                you should still be fine joel, i use 15-40 in mine just b/c its diesel oil with the zinc in it yet




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                • #9
                  Great article Gary found on oil...

                  http://mifbody.com/vbulletin/showthr...hlight=quality

                  Worth the read...
                  Originally posted by Redd8407
                  I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
                  Originally posted by Z28ISGR8
                  WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
                  Originally posted by Darren
                  I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar View Post
                    Great article Gary found on oil...

                    http://mifbody.com/vbulletin/showthr...hlight=quality

                    Worth the read...
                    Thanks!
                    Western Michigan Camaro Club ~ President
                    1987 Camaro IROC-Z Pearl White & Black w/ Red Pearl, 355 TPI, A4, 3:42, AirRide,"GOMARO"
                    2017 Silverado Double Cab Z71 Pepperdust Metallic, 5.3, A6, 3:42, "SASYZ71"
                    2005 Pontiac Grand Prix GT White, 3800
                    WMCC Website www.wmcamaro.org

                    "A government big enough to give you everything you want,
                    is strong enough to take everything you have." — Thomas Jefferson

                    "Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 81DaytonaPaceCar View Post
                      Great article Gary found on oil...

                      http://mifbody.com/vbulletin/showthr...hlight=quality

                      Worth the read...
                      so that article is saying mobil 1 is losing lubricating properties? I run mobil 1 in both of my vehicles. Should i switch to amsoil?


                      Id better warn my dad about this API bs, he uses regular dino oil in all of our other 3 vehicles.
                      -Joel
                      1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                      1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


                      WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JoeliusZ28 View Post
                        so that article is saying mobil 1 is losing lubricating properties? I run mobil 1 in both of my vehicles. Should i switch to amsoil?


                        Id better warn my dad about this API bs, he uses regular dino oil in all of our other 3 vehicles.
                        Thats Pretty much what it says.
                        Western Michigan Camaro Club ~ President
                        1987 Camaro IROC-Z Pearl White & Black w/ Red Pearl, 355 TPI, A4, 3:42, AirRide,"GOMARO"
                        2017 Silverado Double Cab Z71 Pepperdust Metallic, 5.3, A6, 3:42, "SASYZ71"
                        2005 Pontiac Grand Prix GT White, 3800
                        WMCC Website www.wmcamaro.org

                        "A government big enough to give you everything you want,
                        is strong enough to take everything you have." — Thomas Jefferson

                        "Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who
                        are willing to work and give to those who would not."
                        Thomas Jefferson

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                        • #13
                          fannnnnnntastic.
                          -Joel
                          1995 Z28 M6 - AI226/234 - autocross ricer
                          1984 Scottsdale K10 - 305/4bbl/4spd


                          WTB List:Midwest Chasis DS Loop

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JoeliusZ28 View Post
                            so that article is saying mobil 1 is losing lubricating properties? I run mobil 1 in both of my vehicles. Should i switch to amsoil?


                            Id better warn my dad about this API bs, he uses regular dino oil in all of our other 3 vehicles.
                            Hmm, I didn't get that take from it...I think Mobil 1 is still o.k.

                            Did I miss something?
                            Originally posted by Redd8407
                            I WANT NOISE! SPEED! AN ENGINE THAT SHAKES MY INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE THEY GOT PARKINSON'S! I DONT WANT AN ENGINE THAT IS PARTIALLY POWERED BY MY LAPTOP BATTERY!
                            Originally posted by Z28ISGR8
                            WHY THE F*CK IS THERE A GOAT ON A FERRARI?
                            Originally posted by Darren
                            I think it is because I take it in and out all the time, the rubber has just stretched out, especially at the bottom where it is really thin. It annoys me more then anything.

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                            • #15
                              Yep, I've gone to all RP (Royal Purple) in my vehicles.

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