TTA Turbo Pics Request

Hey guys, I am trying to map this out. I know we have a couple of TTA owners here. Does anyone have a good diagram of the turbo piping or any pics of the lower part of the engine showing the exhaust piping and intercooler piping. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!

I finally am getting this thing planned out, I have located the turbo and some other components and I have recruited some help from a couple mech buddies of mine to do this, I just need to put my plan down on paper and work out any kinks before I delve in fully.

[92conv]

I'll try to get some info for you tonight. I'll post it up tomorrow for ya.

[81DaytonaPaceCar]

The intercooler location on TTAs is not what I would call in an optimal location...it's down low in front of the timing cover and behind the fans and turbo ducting, so it really doesn't get much airflow...GM added a scoop underneath the car that only sits about 4 inches off the ground and is just behind the lower spoiler, so it helps, I'm just not sure how much.

You can just catch a glimpse of it in the last pic.

Also note the heat resistant shielding around the washer and overflow bottles...any plastic that close to the turbo or ducting will require protection...

[PACE]

Do Log style headers, Work nice. and also i can do a little diagram for you if your interested

Pace...

[phoenix_rising]

Thanks you guys!

That would be great! Any help I can get would be a God send!

BTW, There is a guy selling some GTP manifolds on FTV6 for that purpose should I go after them? I am looking to use a stage 3 20G turbo. Same turbo used on the Cyclones and Typhoons.

[Derek]

fullthrottlev6.com or camarov6.com are gonna be your best source of info for this I would think. Why don't you want to go with a newer turbo? seems to me a newer setup would be a much more efficient way to go. Sorry I can't help more with turbo details, if you wanted to put a powerdyne on that v6 I'd definately have a wealth of info to throw your way . Forced induction v6's are fun, I'm hoping to eventually buy my old car back and supercharge it again , procharger this time though.

[81DaytonaPaceCar]

Why don't you want to go with a newer turbo?

Unless you're running forged internals, meth injection, and 20+ lbs of boost, it's unlikely that you'll notice (or worry about) the inefficiency.

There's so many people that run turbos, even twins, that only make 8 or even 10 psi, that the turbo is sooooo overbuilt for the system/environment it's being put in.

It's like putting a big block in a Chevette to run 13s...can you do it?

Sure.

But only because the rest of the system doesn't support anything faster.

Frankly, IMHO, if you don't run 10+ psi of boost with a turbo, you're wasting time and money...there's cheaper ways to make the same hp gains...

[phoenix_rising]

I agree. The 20G is good for 20-30 Lbs of boost safely. I figure I will start off about 10Lbs safely on stock motor while getting together the goodies over this summer including forged pistons, L32 rods, some high Lb injectors, and intercooler of some sort (still researching that) to build a higher boost motor.

Still in in the research stage here but I do have a turbo that Michigan Turbo is going to build for me, a greddy turbo timer is coming friday, and I have all the base mods pretty much done. Still waiting on the rear axle swap and aluminum ds, but all in good time.

[81DaytonaPaceCar]

I agree. The 20G is good for 20-30 Lbs of boost safely. I figure I will start off about 10Lbs safely on stock motor while getting together the goodies over this summer including forged pistons, L32 rods, some high Lb injectors, and intercooler of some sort (still researching that) to build a higher boost motor.

Still in in the research stage here but I do have a turbo that Michigan Turbo is going to build for me, a greddy turbo timer is coming friday, and I have all the base mods pretty much done. Still waiting on the rear axle swap and aluminum ds, but all in good time.

But be careful there...making boost is easy.

Making it run every day can be challenging.

Compression, fuel, oil, timing, temperature, valvetrain, supporting powertrain...it's all a critical balance.

If you're only running 10 psi, I really don't think a turbo timer is necessary.

This might sound contrary to reason, but if you're going to take the plunge, do it with both feet.

Pick a target powertrain to have and build to it...don't build to 10 psi if you expect to be making 20 psi in a year...you're paying for things twice if you do it.

And don't feel compelled to re-invent the wheel...this has all been done before...follow their lead and save money...once you get the platform dialed in to where you want it, then start tinkering...exotic unkown components are not necessary at this point.

Get a stable platform to begin with...and don't shortchange yourself on where you expect that platform to be.

You want 20 psi...build to 20 psi...you should consider that just by choosing this path you've moved out of the kiddie pool... you just don't know how deep the big-boy pool is...and that means $$$$...pick a target, budget for it, and do it with plans for the future.

[Derek]

But be careful there...making boost is easy.

Making it run every day can be challenging.

Compression, fuel, oil, timing, temperature, valvetrain, supporting powertrain...it's all a critical balance.

If you're only running 10 psi, I really don't think a turbo timer is necessary.

This might sound contrary to reason, but if you're going to take the plunge, do it with both feet.

Pick a target powertrain to have and build to it...don't build to 10 psi if you expect to be making 20 psi in a year...you're paying for things twice if you do it.

And don't feel compelled to re-invent the wheel...this has all been done before...follow their lead and save money...once you get the platform dialed in to where you want it, then start tinkering...exotic unknown components are not necessary at this point.

Get a stable platform to begin with...and don't shortchange yourself on where you expect that platform to be.

You want 20 psi...build to 20 psi...you should consider that just by choosing this path you've moved out of the kiddie pool... you just don't know how deep the big-boy pool is...and that means $$$$...pick a target, budget for it, and do it with plans for the future.

great advice there. I kinda figured this would be the case when you first mentioned it, but its going to be a LOT more money than you think.. especially with no prior knowledge of turbo setups you need to do something that is tried and true. That is sort of why I mentioned doing a "newer turbo" and a newer setup that another v6 fbody has already ran. Heck used turbo kits go up for sale quite often on fullthrottlev6 and camarov6 that are gauranteed to work on your car. I'll tell you right now you will need some sort of way to tune the car when working with it as well, we used HP tuners, DONT do a mail order tune. As for fuel injectors later.. at 10psi you are going to have to do something immediately. My supercharger only put out 7psi and I was easily maxing out my stock injectors. I ended up switching to GTP injectors because those were a good cheap route. Do a bunch of research on all the little modifications you will need to make as well the nickle and dime stuff can be killer if you don't know what you're getting into..

[DETROITMUSCLE]

I agree with Derek, someone who has never worked with a turbo setup before is going to be completly blindsided by the cost and lack of knowledge. I would also suggest buying a used kit to get you started and once you understand the system and get a better knowledge of the money involved then try and tackel a custom setup if you so desire.

[92conv]

Ben, here are some diagrams for the TTA set-up. Don't know if they'll help you much, but they will at least give you a small idea of what's invovled.