Which headers are better?

[Dirty T/A]

A set of shorty or long pipes? Besides the lenght, is there a difference?

[Darren]

Yes, get long tubes and do it right the first time.

[JoeliusZ28]

I would never bother with shorties unless it was my only option. Longtubes make the most power.

[c0ncEpT]

Longtubes or bust.

[hoogiesngrinderz]

Really depends on your RPM goal but long tubes are better for exhaust scavenging in the low to mid RPM range, this increases your motor's volumetric efficiency.

I couldn't do long tubes because my Camaro is lowered and a convertible. The extra bracing added by ASC doesn't allow them to fit well (even more so with a T5) and would have left about three inches of ground clearance.

[nascarnate326]

would have left about three inches of ground clearance.

Thats about all I have.



Get LT's or leave it stock IMO. Unless your in a state that has emissions testing.

[MasterGun]

Thats about all I have.



Get LT's or leave it stock IMO. Unless your in a state that has emissions testing.

I agree get the longtubes

[birdie2000]

Obviously you guys don't drive anywhere with speed bumps

I've had mid-lengths with 1-3/4 primaries on two cars now. First time was on my blower car. I switched to long tubes and power stayed about the same, went down a few actually but I considered it a wash. Car made around 440rwhp on a Mustang dyno.

I'm currently going through this dilemma myself on my current car, to reuse the mids or put long tubes on since I just got a different engine. Long tubes seem obvious, but once you get used to that ground clearance it's hard to go back IMO. The peak numbers aren't what's causing me to hesitate on the mids, it's that it's a motor that likes to rev and I'm worried that the mids will compound the problem of giving up torque down low which IMO is where their weakness is over long tubes.

[JoeliusZ28]

I've never hit my longtubes on anything ever and they have been on the car since 2005. Speed bumps, driveways, center-post hoists, roadkill, sleeping police man ... clears it all.

I am stock height but i wouldnt be afraid to lower it and I plan on it. Mufflers are my bigger concern and I plan on tucking those up higher soon.

[BP_Z28]

LTs or sell your damn car

[birdie2000]

Yeah, my front end is slammed, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

On my old car with Hooker LTs I scraped on EVERYTHING, lol. Even had to take bad train tracks sideways. Damn Spohn torque arm with its dipped "long tubes" crossmember even scraped getting it on the dyno hoist one time to the point it almost didn't want to go over it. After that I got kinda turned off by long tubes for anything that gets a lot of street time and is lowered.

[Dirty T/A]

Thanks for the info guys.

The long headers might just be mid headers....but unsure right now. i will post pics of the 2 I have to choose from later tonight.

[c0ncEpT]

I bought my LT's back in 06 and I have never even gotten close to hitting them on anything. Now cutouts and duals are a different story.

[hoogiesngrinderz]

I scrape something every time I pull in or out of the driveway. It's either my air deflector, y pipe, intermediate pipe, or torque arm. Or a combination of those I do need to tuck my intermediate pipe up a little bit better though.

[Curt_irocz]

Hookers on the 3rd gen..... Yup they are smashed. BBK's on the 95 ls1 car and not even close to botuming out. My frame rails would hit first.
both longtubes btw.