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  • Converting to E85??

    What would I need to run E85? I currently have 30# SVO injectors, I plan to get dynotuned in the spring, and I also plan on getting a walbro fuel pump. I am very curious on what I would need to convert to E85???
    - 2012 Mustang GT 5.0 - M6 / Brembo Package / 3.73 / Bama Tune / Catless X / Corsa Xtreme /
    - 2006 TBSS 2wd - Nitrous Grind Cam / Stainless Works LT's / Nitrous Works / FMStune / IeatSRT CAI / Stg 6 Trans / Kbee Coilovers / SOLD
    - 1997 Camaro - Crane 234 242 / PortedPolishedMilled / Kooks / Borla / CompClutch / pro5.0 / 4.10's / SLP / SOLD
    - 2008 G8 GT - Kooks / Vararam / HSRK / FMStune / SOLD
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    You're going to need to get some 42# injectors...


    Some TR6s....


    That should be it... Basically you need your fuel system to flow ~30% more fuel than you're using right now

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BAMF TA View Post
      You're going to need to get some 42# injectors...


      Some TR6s....


      That should be it... Basically you need your fuel system to flow ~30% more fuel than you're using right now
      awesome not too bad. Do you think it would benefit me and be worth converting?
      - 2012 Mustang GT 5.0 - M6 / Brembo Package / 3.73 / Bama Tune / Catless X / Corsa Xtreme /
      - 2006 TBSS 2wd - Nitrous Grind Cam / Stainless Works LT's / Nitrous Works / FMStune / IeatSRT CAI / Stg 6 Trans / Kbee Coilovers / SOLD
      - 1997 Camaro - Crane 234 242 / PortedPolishedMilled / Kooks / Borla / CompClutch / pro5.0 / 4.10's / SLP / SOLD
      - 2008 G8 GT - Kooks / Vararam / HSRK / FMStune / SOLD
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      • #4
        Would be a benefit if you are running 14:1 compression and wanted something cheaper than race gas.
        When in doubt, Whip it out !

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        • #5
          Originally posted by farmington View Post
          Would be a benefit if you are running 14:1 compression and wanted something cheaper than race gas.
          ahh ic
          - 2012 Mustang GT 5.0 - M6 / Brembo Package / 3.73 / Bama Tune / Catless X / Corsa Xtreme /
          - 2006 TBSS 2wd - Nitrous Grind Cam / Stainless Works LT's / Nitrous Works / FMStune / IeatSRT CAI / Stg 6 Trans / Kbee Coilovers / SOLD
          - 1997 Camaro - Crane 234 242 / PortedPolishedMilled / Kooks / Borla / CompClutch / pro5.0 / 4.10's / SLP / SOLD
          - 2008 G8 GT - Kooks / Vararam / HSRK / FMStune / SOLD
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          • #6
            You need to replace all of the rubber fuel lines, E85 eats rubber lines that are not made for it.
            1996 Trans Am WS6 - long term project


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            • #7
              Originally posted by BAMF TA View Post
              Some TR6s....
              why the plugs out of curiosity?
              Doing less with more


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              • #8
                Originally posted by 94ss68c10 View Post
                awesome not too bad. Do you think it would benefit me and be worth converting?
                I think everyone will benefit, how many is arguable. but if not in raw power, your engine will run cooler and cleaner.

                Originally posted by farmington View Post
                Would be a benefit if you are running 14:1 compression and wanted something cheaper than race gas.
                To take full advantage, yes.

                Originally posted by jetice View Post
                You need to replace all of the rubber fuel lines, E85 eats rubber lines that are not made for it.

                No

                http://www.change2e85.com/servlet/Page?template=Myths




                Originally posted by DETROITMUSCLE View Post
                why the plugs out of curiosity?
                Its just what I was told by one of the bigger guys, I didnt question it...


                I wish I had a better answer...

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                • #9
                  And you just proved my point, they also say that it will eat any rubber fuel line not made for it. I have heard from many other sources that if the vehicle is over 10 years old or is not made to run E85, it needs to have its rubber fuel lines replaced because they do not have the required linings to prevent them from breaking down.

                  Half way down the page, right hand column:
                  http://running_on_alcohol.tripod.com/id1.html

                  http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=83460

                  http://vcca.org/forum/ubbthreads.php...ol_eats_rubber

                  http://www.brokerblogger.com/brokerb...10_ethano.html
                  1996 Trans Am WS6 - long term project


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BAMF TA View Post
                    Its just what I was told by one of the bigger guys, I didnt question it...


                    I wish I had a better answer...
                    I've never heard that nor does it seem to make any sense, no worries. Also if you guys are looking to switch to E85 on a n/a combo I doubt it will even be close to worth it marginal 5rwhp at best give or take a few.
                    Doing less with more


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DETROITMUSCLE View Post
                      I've never heard that nor does it seem to make any sense, no worries. Also if you guys are looking to switch to E85 on a n/a combo I doubt it will even be close to worth it marginal 5rwhp at best give or take a few.
                      N thats why I asked lol.
                      - 2012 Mustang GT 5.0 - M6 / Brembo Package / 3.73 / Bama Tune / Catless X / Corsa Xtreme /
                      - 2006 TBSS 2wd - Nitrous Grind Cam / Stainless Works LT's / Nitrous Works / FMStune / IeatSRT CAI / Stg 6 Trans / Kbee Coilovers / SOLD
                      - 1997 Camaro - Crane 234 242 / PortedPolishedMilled / Kooks / Borla / CompClutch / pro5.0 / 4.10's / SLP / SOLD
                      - 2008 G8 GT - Kooks / Vararam / HSRK / FMStune / SOLD
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                      • #12
                        Wile looking for through some pages yesterday, I stumbled across this. Looks fairly interesting to me:
                        http://running_on_alcohol.tripod.com/id1.html
                        1996 Trans Am WS6 - long term project


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                        • #13
                          E-85 is cheaper than 87octane at the moment but once the contract with the government expires E-85 will be more expensive and you will get worse fuel economy. Lose Lose situation

                          However in a turbo application....

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                          • #14
                            Just out of curiosity why did you want to run E85? Some people swair by it but from what I have seen it is not consistant (from pump to pump) some has higher octane than others. Also the plain fact that yes the octane may be there but what about the energy/btu's of the fuel. Chemically it is not the chemical gasoline is hence why you need to use 30-40% more of it to get the same effect and combustion of gasoline. (to make the same power as gasoline) It may have octane but it doesnt have energy. And they trick you saying its cheaper than gas but you burn it nearly twice as fast so are you really saving?

                            I am not trying to bash anyone using it as I have seen people go fast on it. (extremley high boost Evo's) However I know people that said it was a rip off as well as seen/participated in dyno tests with my dads company. These tests were for milage purposes and we were adding propane to the motor for half the test but the conclusion was that for MILAGE!! E85 is a green jobs gimmick and costs you just as much if not more than premium in the long run. We were trying to get more milage by adding vapor propane to the engine seeing how the milage would react but you just plain have to use too much E85 to make what gasoline makes.

                            Maybe a lighter vehicle that can go 45mph only using 15 hp this can work but on a tahoe or larger vehicle where it takes 30-40hp to cruise down the road it is guzzling the e85 no matter what we do. Like everything it has its place but what was your reasoning for wanting to convert? Plans for boost?
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                            • #15
                              Just read Jetice post on an Ethanol still. That is a good idea if you can make it for .95-1.20$ a gallon it would probably be worthwhile if not cool as hell.

                              You could probably use it for moonshine too once you get stocked up on Ethanol.
                              99ws6 - Huron Speed Turbo - PT67

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